TAR: Side Pockets Showdown; Schmidt vs Kirkwood and Bartram vs Dechaine

[JCIN]

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We are going back to Side Pockets for an Action double header featuring 3 road warriors and our Action All Around Champion. It all starts July 23rd with Chris Bartram taking on Mike Dechaine in a $10,000 entry, 10 Ball, Race to 100 over two days.

Chris is a well known road man and gambler who has a reputation for grinding out long sets and fighting hard for the money. He is taking on young upstart Mike "The Pain" Dechaine from Maine. Mike is a great young talent who is ready to test himself in the fire of high dollar action. The match up between these two should see a battle of wills between two tough competitors. Playing the race to 100 format in two days will bring stamina into the equation as well. Time for talking is over. It's on.

The second part of this Action double header features former U.S. Open Champion and current Action All Around Champion John Schmidt going head to head with Jason Kirkwood. Jason is considered by many to be one of the most underrated players in the game. Anyone who has seen him in action knows exactly where he rates. He is a monster. Winner of numerous bar table titles and countless action matches on the road, Jason is coming out of the shadows to take on John in a $10,000 entry, 10 ball, race to 100 over the weekend.

James "Duff" Doran, owner of Side Pockets in North Kansas City is very graciously hosting this event. Side Pockets is an awesome room with great food, friendly staff and very receptive atmosphere for action :D We can't wait to get back to KC and get it fired up.

Both matches will be played on a Diamond 9 foot Pro Am. Diamond has been a TAR supporter from the beginning and we are very greatful. It is a pleasure to work with a company that sets the standard of excellence in the industry.

As always the BCA Pool Leagues and www.playbca.com are with us for this event and we are excited to continue our partnership with Mark Griffin and the whole BCAPL staff. Once again we are lucky enough to be involved with the class of the industry.

Ken Schuman is flying in on his own dime to help us with the commentary and we can't thank him enough for his knowledge, skill and insight in the booth.

If you are in or around KC on July 23rd-27th stop in and sweat some great action by some of the toughest players in the world. If you can't make it to Side Pockets you can watch it LIVE on our streaming pay per view on www.theactionreport.com. The PPV price will be announced soon, we are trying to come up with a creative way to make it easy for everyone to see all the action they want.

TAR especially wants to thank all the players and their sponsors for working with us to put this on. It takes time, effort and money from all parties concerned to make one of these go and without their support and help it wouldn't happen.

See you all at Side Pockets in a couple of weeks. This is going to be a blast.

[s0lidz]

Nice, can't wait to see this one!

[curlyscues]

I hardly ever leave the house as it is, and then you do this to me.;)
M.C.

[Johnnyt]

Sounds like two nice match-ups. I'll be watching for sure. Thanks TAR. Johnnyt

[yobagua]

I will entertain some rail bets from my friends that I made previous bets with. I like Mike Dechaine after what I saw him do in LA. I also like Kirkwood. Nothing against the opponents. I just happen to like Mike and Kirkwood's time is long in coming in nationwide recognition.

[beav99_4life]

I heard these matches were coming up and all I could think is WOW!!! I know alot of us have been dying to see Kirkwood jump in the ring. You guys just keep setting the bar higher and higher. God knows i'll be in front of the computer for 5 days straight. Once again, thanks for all the work you guys do, i'm finally starting to realize how much you guys actually have to go through to get these matches set up. TAR is the nuts!!! SPARTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The avatar is for you Nasty. LOL

[JCIN]

SPARTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The avatar is for you Nasty. LOL
I like this one too Beav

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[gpeezy]

This one is gonna be a good one. Some might or might not think Kirkwood can get there. I can't recall seeing him miss a ball myself however. Bartum is always playing hard and focused. Mike is trying to fire at everybody. Its gonna be a good one.

[Dead Money]

Ooooooo this is gonna be great!!!:D

[JCIN]

This one is gonna be a good one. Some might or might not think Kirkwood can get there. I can't recall seeing him miss a ball myself however. Bartum is always playing hard and focused. Mike is trying to fire at everybody. Its gonna be a good one.
I am hyped for this one. John's 10 ball game is strong and Kirkwood is kind of coming out the shadows on this one. A lot of people who havent seen him play will get a big surprise. It will be a great match.

Bartram and Dechaine will finally get to getting it. LOL. I can't wait.

[iba7467]

Let's get some action going

[gpeezy]

I am hyped for this one. John's 10 ball game is strong and Kirkwood is kind of coming out the shadows on this one. A lot of people who havent seen him play will get a big surprise. It will be a great match.

Bartram and Dechaine will finally get to getting it. LOL. I can't wait.
I wish I could make it there to watch in person but between gas and beer this summer I'm busted. Hell I'm quitin drinkin again now so I can make it to the Derby. IBA PM sent.

[uwate]

after the last go around when i batted 0-4 on TAR matches, I am ready to grab my ankles again. Lets just get the lines set and start stirring it up.

[Black-Balled]

after the last go around when i batted 0-4 on TAR matches, I am ready to grab my ankles again. Lets just get the lines set and start stirring it up.

High- larious.

Go TAR!!

[jay helfert]

Two GREAT Match-Ups here! The TAR guys do it again! Both are tough matches to bet on, but I will offer my opinion only.

I like John in the first match and I'll tell you why. He is playing regularly now, so he's in good stroke and he seems to like the TAR format. He has played in these marathon before so he knows what to expect and how to prepare. Jason is kind of the X Factor, a great player, especially in money matches. I don't think the bet, or the situation will faze him. It all comes down to who plays better those three days. I just like John's overall game a little better right now. If it was on a Diamond 7', I might be going with Jason, but it's not.

In the prelim (which could be a feature itself) I lean slightly to Mike D. He is anxious to prove himself to the pool world. He seems quite willing to take on the big guns wherever he finds them (i.e. Ernesto in L.A.) and the size of the bet does not faze him either. Mike has loads of talent and is IMO the best of the new breed of young guns. Yes, I rate him over Justin Bergman, John Morra and Mitch Ellerman. They don't want any part of him. That being said, Chris is the more seasoned player in all respects, and may hold up better over the long haul. Mike has had his ups and downs in money matches already. Chris is a steadier performer.

All and all, two very close matches. Once again, hats off to TAR for making it happen. Isn't it amazing how two guys (Justin and Chad) with limited resources can trump a billionaire (TruDo) over and over again. Talk about the underdog whipping the big dog, I love the back story! Keep it up guys!

[iba7467]

Lets just get the lines set and start stirring it up.

I'm standing in line to get the line. The following is not a bet offer, but my thoughts on the matches (no disrespect meant to any participant)

Match 1
Chris Bartrum is and has been one of the nation's premier gamblers for quite some time. Bartrum is no stranger to long grueling sets and this format favors this workhorse over alot of thoroughbreds.

Mike Dechaine is young, inexperienced and full of talent. I have heard of Dechaine playing jam up in short bursts, but not a word about staying in-it-to-win-it for the long term. I am sure Dechaine has an amazing gear, but can he keep the clutch from slipping.

No slight to Mike and I'm not saying he's a major dog here, but I believe the edge and the line has to favor Bartrum

Match 2
John Schmidt has already played two of these three day TAR events. He has been playing phenomenal pool lately and alot of 10 ball. Harriman's prodding of John may also motivate him in this match.

Jason Kirkwood has been possibly the best bar table 9 ball player for some time now. Kirkwood never gives up, plays jam up, and always comes to put up. I definitely think Kirkwood is making every preparation for this match and comes in on fire. My concern is the break in 10 ball will not be what he has been accustomed to for the last 8 years and may pose a mental problem as well as a physical one on the table. The switch to the 9 footer is no stranger to Kirkwood, but again is not where his mastery has laid for the last number of years.

I have to give the edge to John here, but I believe Kirkwood may come through early and often. I expect Kirkwood to run more racks overall.

Again this is all just my pandering and is in no way to discredit the amazing level of play of each of these players, but this puts everything out there to be discussed.

Now, let's bet it up

[gotgame]

Congrats to TAR you guys are Nuts:grin: i mean way to go true road warriors Bartrum and Kirkwood finally people get to see them in action not just hear about it. I recomend everyone by this match hell buy it twice give TAR some credit i would rather watch road hustlers instead of TV champs any day


Also on a side note i will take Bartrum minus 10 and Kirkwood plus 10 for a buck a piece any takers:thumbup:

[iba7467]

Congrats to TAR you guys are Nuts:grin: i mean way to go true road warriors Bartrum and Kirkwood finally people get to see them in action not just hear about it. I recomend everyone by this match hell buy it twice give TAR some credit i would rather watch road hustlers instead of TV champs any day


Also on a side note i will take Bartrum minus 10 and Kirkwood plus 10 for a buck a piece any takers:thumbup:

I'll take you up on Bartrum

[jay helfert]

Congrats to TAR you guys are Nuts:grin: i mean way to go true road warriors Bartrum and Kirkwood finally people get to see them in action not just hear about it. I recomend everyone by this match hell buy it twice give TAR some credit i would rather watch road hustlers instead of TV champs any day


Also on a side note i will take Bartrum minus 10 and Kirkwood plus 10 for a buck a piece any takers:thumbup:

You're laying Mike D. ten games on the wire? Is that correct? If so, I'd like to make a bet with you. $100 is fine.

[iba7467]

You're laying Mike D. ten games on the wire? Is that correct? If so, I'd like to make a bet with you. $100 is fine.

Hey I got there first

[jay helfert]

Hey I got there first

I'll be second, no problem. :smile:

gotgame can bet ALL he wants with me, except we must post somewhere. Like with Justin of TAR.

[corvette1340]

Hey I got there first


I'm pretty sure it was a combo deal in that to get Mike D. +10 you have to give up Kirkwood and 10 games in the other match.

[jay helfert]

I'm pretty sure it was a combo deal in that to get Mike D. +10 you have to give up Kirkwood and 10 games in the other match.


You're Third T-Dog!

[gotgame]

You guys are hilarios talk about jumping on that like flies on s**t it was a combo bet that one was the one if i was to make a prediction i would loose possibly I realy like Mikes game i will do the combo bet they are both going to be great matches. Also Jay congrats on the tourney over the weekend. Iba i love your style you are always in good action make the line mine was just a little something to get things going:grin:

[DeadPoked]

Maybe I'll just go all-in on whoever uwate is betting against. That sounds like a sound investment strategy. :thumbup:

[iba7467]

You guys are hilarios talk about jumping on that like flies on s**t it was a combo bet that one was the one if i was to make a prediction i would loose possibly I realy like Mikes game i will do the combo bet they are both going to be great matches. Also Jay congrats on the tourney over the weekend. Iba i love your style you are always in good action make the line mine was just a little something to get things going:grin:

Great post to start the bettors foaming at the mouth.

I am still waiting on the line. I gave my thoughts, but they are both close matches.

I'll take the combo bet, if you want to shift it to Kirkwood even. I believe that match is a little closer than Bartrum and Dechaine. Just an offer.

[corvette1340]

I'll take 7 to 5 on the money on each match and you can pick your horse in both matches. Let me know.

[jamesroberts]

after the last go around when i batted 0-4 on TAR matches, I am ready to grab my ankles again. Lets just get the lines set and start stirring it up.

who do you like?

[JCIN]

I'll be second, no problem. :smile:

gotgame can bet ALL he wants with me, except we must post somewhere. Like with Justin of TAR.
Appreciate the vote of confidence Jay but we dont do that. Whatever guys want to do amongst themselves is up to them. We dont make lines, we dont hold money, we do not promote the rail gambling on the matches. Whatever goes on outside of our control is just that , outside of our control. All we do is put on two man tournaments.

The fastest way to kill TAR is to get involved in anything besides putting the matches on.

This message paid for by the "Keep the cops, haters and nits off our ass foundation".

[gpeezy]

I'll take 7 to 5 on the money on each match and you can pick your horse in both matches. Let me know.
I think this is best.

[Mike Templeton]

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We are going back to Side Pockets for an Action double header featuring 3 road warriors and our Action All Around Champion. It all starts July 23rd with Chris Bartram taking on Mike Dechaine in a $10,000 entry, 10 Ball, Race to 100 over two days.

Chris is a well known road man and gambler who has a reputation for grinding out long sets and fighting hard for the money. He is taking on young upstart Mike "The Pain" Dechaine from Maine. Mike is a great young talent who is ready to test himself in the fire of high dollar action. The match up between these two should see a battle of wills between two tough competitors. Playing the race to 100 format in two days will bring stamina into the equation as well. Time for talking is over. It's on.

The second part of this Action double header features former U.S. Open Champion and current Action All Around Champion John Schmidt going head to head with Jason Kirkwood. Jason is considered by many to be one of the most underrated players in the game. Anyone who has seen him in action knows exactly where he rates. He is a monster. Winner of numerous bar table titles and countless action matches on the road, Jason is coming out of the shadows to take on John in a $10,000 entry, 10 ball, race to 100 over the weekend.

James "Duff" Doran, owner of Side Pockets in North Kansas City is very graciously hosting this event. Side Pockets is an awesome room with great food, friendly staff and very receptive atmosphere for action :D We can't wait to get back to KC and get it fired up.

Both matches will be played on a Diamond 9 foot Pro Am. Diamond has been a TAR supporter from the beginning and we are very greatful. It is a pleasure to work with a company that sets the standard of excellence in the industry.

As always the BCA Pool Leagues and www.playbca.com are with us for this event and we are excited to continue our partnership with Mark Griffin and the whole BCAPL staff. Once again we are lucky enough to be involved with the class of the industry.

Ken Schuman is flying in on his own dime to help us with the commentary and we can't thank him enough for his knowledge, skill and insight in the booth.

If you are in or around KC on July 23rd-27th stop in and sweat some great action by some of the toughest players in the world. If you can't make it to Side Pockets you can watch it LIVE on our streaming pay per view on www.theactionreport.com. The PPV price will be announced soon, we are trying to come up with a creative way to make it easy for everyone to see all the action they want.

TAR especially wants to thank all the players and their sponsors for working with us to put this on. It takes time, effort and money from all parties concerned to make one of these go and without their support and help it wouldn't happen.

See you all at Side Pockets in a couple of weeks. This is going to be a blast.
Great job, Guys. I haven't had the pleasure of watching Mike D play yet. I'm looking forward to it.

Mike

[uwate]

lol...its true...lately I have been the perfect reverse barometer of who will win. Its tough booking so many losers in a row yknow...I have to really work at it!

[sde]

Appreciate the vote of confidence Jay but we dont do that. Whatever guys want to do amongst themselves is up to them. We dont make lines, we dont hold money, we do not promote the rail gambling on the matches. Whatever goes on outside of our control is just that , outside of our control. All we do is put on two man tournaments.

The fastest way to kill TAR is to get involved in anything besides putting the matches on.

This message paid for by the "Keep the cops, haters and nits off our ass foundation".

Damn that's funny, too bad it has to be that way.

I took the liberty of printing the flyer in your first post onto 8.5 x11 card stock and willing be posting those in the local pool rooms here in Grand Rapids. Jason has a huge fan base here and I am sure that most of those know nothing of AZB or TAR. Hopefully many will see the flyer, tune in and buy the PPV.

Steve

[uwate]

Bartram and Dechaine= pickem -115

Kirkwood/ JS = Kirkwood even money/ JS -115

[iba7467]

Bartram and Dechaine= pickem -115

Kirkwood/ JS = Kirkwood even money/ JS -115

Nice lines uwate. Almost my thoughts exactly. Any action uwate wishes not to cover at these lines can come see me.

[watchez]

I'll take 7 to 5 on the money on each match and you can pick your horse in both matches. Let me know.
40% Juice :confused: Wow, you sure you don't want to bet that you are breathing first. :)

[corvette1340]

40% Juice :confused: Wow, you sure you don't want to bet that you are breathing first. :)


just thought I'd put it out there. Who do you want? :)

[Salamander]

Bartram and Dechaine= pickem -115

Kirkwood/ JS = Kirkwood even money/ JS -115

I'm not up on the gambling venacular....are you saying that you will bet $115 and you will go with either Bartram or Dechaine? and....you want Kirkwood for $115?

I might be? willing to offer "revenge" action as I still have your money sitting in paypal. However, my max bet probably cannot exceed two tanks of gas. LOL

Doug

by the way...both of these seem like terrific matchups and should be great to watch.

[watchez]

just thought I'd put it out there. Who do you want? :)

I will take Kirkwood if, since this being Kansas City, TAR will let Danny Harriman be the referee for the match. He can rack the balls and make all calls, allow timeouts, etc. I will even buy Danny a referees shirt, I saw them at Dick's Sporting Goods over the weekend.

On the Bartrum-Dechaine, I haven't formed an opinion yet. In my mind, both of these players are overrated - by themselves and by others. Bartrum plays a lot of big money matches, but he loses his share & I think when I have heard him say come play me or Kirkwood, he is not in Kirkwood's class. Dechaine, I know has been itching to play since he found himself a stakehorse. Will he be like Morra and too inexperienced for the big money? Will the money not effect him cause he is getting staked? Is Bartrum getting staked? JCIN, can you tell us - out of these 4, who put up their own money?

[gpeezy]

I will take Kirkwood if, since this being Kansas City, TAR will let Danny Harriman be the referee for the match. He can rack the balls and make all calls, allow timeouts, etc. I will even buy Danny a referees shirt, I saw them at Dick's Sporting Goods over the weekend.

On the Bartrum-Dechaine, I haven't formed an opinion yet. In my mind, both of these players are overrated - by themselves and by others. Bartrum plays a lot of big money matches, but he loses his share & I think when I have heard him say come play me or Kirkwood, he is not in Kirkwood's class. Dechaine, I know has been itching to play since he found himself a stakehorse. Will he be like Morra and too inexperienced for the big money? Will the money not effect him cause he is getting staked? Is Bartrum getting staked? JCIN, can you tell us - out of these 4, who put up their own money?
1 thing. Mike just got through playing Ernesto for 12 bags for two or more days. It will be a good match up I think. Neither are up two Shane status but I think it will make for a great race to 100.

[watchez]

1 thing. Mike just got through playing Ernesto for 12 bags for two or more days. It will be a good match up I think. Neither are up two Shane status but I think it will make for a great race to 100.
Who won? 9 ball or 10 ball?

[rope_one]

This is awesome. I can't wait for the end of July. Great pick by the ActionReport as always.

[gotgame]

Who won? 9 ball or 10 ball?

Last i heard they never finished it went on for 3 days . After day 1 Mike was up 6 i believe in a 10 ahead. After day 2 Ernesto pulled up by 4. I think day 3 after playing til close they broke even a back and forth battle the whole way.:thumbup:
O and to answer your question 10-ball was the game for 6k apiece

[uwate]

Salamander, yes in a -115 you have to bet 115 to win 100.

[JCIN]

I will take Kirkwood if, since this being Kansas City, TAR will let Danny Harriman be the referee for the match. He can rack the balls and make all calls, allow timeouts, etc. I will even buy Danny a referees shirt, I saw them at Dick's Sporting Goods over the weekend.

On the Bartrum-Dechaine, I haven't formed an opinion yet. In my mind, both of these players are overrated - by themselves and by others. Bartrum plays a lot of big money matches, but he loses his share & I think when I have heard him say come play me or Kirkwood, he is not in Kirkwood's class. Dechaine, I know has been itching to play since he found himself a stakehorse. Will he be like Morra and too inexperienced for the big money? Will the money not effect him cause he is getting staked? Is Bartrum getting staked? JCIN, can you tell us - out of these 4, who put up their own money?
We do not discuss who or where the players entry fees come from. Frankly it isn't anyone else's business and some of the people we deal with prefer that things are kept discreet.

If people want that information they are going to have find it somewhere else because we don't talk about it publicly.

[watchez]

We do not discuss who or where the players entry fees come from. Frankly it isn't anyone else's business and some of the people we deal with prefer that things are kept discreet.

If people want that information they are going to have find it somewhere else because we don't talk about it publicly.
Fair enough JCIN. No offense was meant by my question. If I decide to bet enough to make it matter, than I will certainly find out & keep the info private.
See I don't think of these things.

Looks like a great show and some of the best/interesting matchups you have had to date.

[JCIN]

Fair enough JCIN. No offense was meant by my question. If I decide to bet enough to make it matter, than I will certainly find out & keep the info private.
See I don't think of these things.

Looks like a great show and some of the best/interesting matchups you have had to date.
No worries sir. I know you meant know harm. You know how these things are. Some guys don't care and some want to be James Bond. We dont say anything unless asked to specifically. Keeps everyone happy.

[corvette1340]

No worries sir. I know you meant know harm. You know how these things are. Some guys don't care and some want to be James Bond. We dont say anything unless asked to specifically. Keeps everyone happy.

So you are saying that Sean Connery is one of the stake horses for the upcoming matches, or is it Roger Moore?

[Mainplayer]

First of all when I played ernesto I cut him some slack and we only played six hours a day. Thats nothing. We were betting 7500 a piece ten ball. The table racked like shit and nothing was happening off the break for both of use. Two hours into day three Ernesto pulled out his money. I wasn't happy but I was in his neck of the woods, so what was I going to do. With the crowd in his favor and him asking me to step out side, I decided it would be best if I let him quit. Thats how it went. It was a good game and who knows the outcome. He plays great and had me at one point.

[gpeezy]

First of all when I played ernesto I cut him some slack and we only played six hours a day. Thats nothing. If we would have played the whole session out I would have in my opinion won it the first night. We were betting 7500 a piece ten ball. The table racked like shit and nothing was happening off the break. Two hours into day three Ernesto pulled out his money. I wasn't happy but I was in his neck of the woods, so what was I going to do. With the crowd in his favor and him asking me to step out side, I decided it would be best if I let him quit. Thats how it went.
Damn and everyone was bragging on Ernesto being a gentleman.

[uwate]

First of all when I played ernesto I cut him some slack and we only played six hours a day. Thats nothing. If we would have played the whole session out I would have in my opinion won it the first night. We were betting 7500 a piece ten ball. The table racked like shit and nothing was happening off the break. Two hours into day three Ernesto pulled out his money. I wasn't happy but I was in his neck of the woods, so what was I going to do. With the crowd in his favor and him asking me to step out side, I decided it would be best if I let him quit. Thats how it went.

Ernesto wanted to fight you if you didnt let him quit?

[iba7467]

First of all when I played ernesto I cut him some slack and we only played six hours a day. Thats nothing. If we would have played the whole session out I would have in my opinion won it the first night. We were betting 7500 a piece ten ball. The table racked like shit and nothing was happening off the break. Two hours into day three Ernesto pulled out his money. I wasn't happy but I was in his neck of the woods, so what was I going to do. With the crowd in his favor and him asking me to step out side, I decided it would be best if I let him quit. Thats how it went.

Are you trying to knock your own action? I'm just wondering. In the beginning, the woofing was great. It got your name out there and let people know you were serious. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but after that you should let the games stand as they end and the reputation work itself out. That is if you want to make money gambling. Why tell people you could give a guy the 7,8 when he will play you even to begin with? Beat him even and then give the weight... keep quiet about your matches and you make get some easier ones.

[Mainplayer]

The set didn't end so who knows who would have won. He plays great. The way it was set up I like him in over me.

[bigskyjake]

So you are saying that Sean Connery is one of the stake horses for the upcoming matches, or is it Roger Moore?


Dude, it's Timothy Dalton, no one saw that shit coming,.......... ****** no one

[crawfish]

Dude, it's Timothy Dalton, no one saw that shit coming,.......... ****** no one
Compared to Connery, Dalton's a tool.

[bigskyjake]

Compared to Connery, Dalton's a tool.


Dalton was the triple nuts in Hot Fuzz

"arrest me, I'm a slasher........of prices. My discounts are criminal"

[watchez]

First of all when I played ernesto I cut him some slack and we only played six hours a day. Thats nothing. We were betting 7500 a piece ten ball. The table racked like shit and nothing was happening off the break for both of use. Two hours into day three Ernesto pulled out his money. I wasn't happy but I was in his neck of the woods, so what was I going to do. With the crowd in his favor and him asking me to step out side, I decided it would be best if I let him quit. Thats how it went. It was a good game and who knows the outcome. He plays great and had me at one point.
This is also a perfect example of what makes TAR great & why I loved/appreciated my experience with them. Put up the $$$ and then no B.S. (of course, we are only hearing 'The Pain' side of the story and we know there are 3 sides to every story). Anyways, 'The Pain' will realize how great TAR is not only because they bring pool out to the public by webcasting and making big matches happen but also what they do for the players. No B.S. Just let you gamble & put all the other issues that happen aside. I am gonna bet that Ernesto could not have gotten JCIN or BigNasty to take the post money down.

[Charlie Hustle]

Ill take John for $100, and Chris for $100 even. Any takers?

[yobagua]

The set didn't end so who knows who would have won. He plays great. The way it was set up I like him in over me.

Mike after what I saw you got a lot of respect from me. I am really disappointed how it turned out. Disappointed because I am a big big fan of Ernesto's. And for you to have to go through that I just am a bit ashamed to how you were treated. Yes you were out of your neck of the woods. The crowd was against you. But still you came with the best of it. Even Ernesto's friends and fans after the first day was saying "Ernesto's got no chance" or "Well he's getting old". But on the second day Ernesto came in rested and showed everyone why he is a great champion in the first place and took a 6 game deficit into a 13 game swing in his favor. He looked strong. Hombre Guapo. On the second day it looked like you were in trouble. But you never waivered in your determination.
You were ready on the 3rd day. How it ended up I dont know. But I know you were on the road. You had expenses. You had lost some on the rail on that 13 game downswing. The bet was made and like in a tournament you cant just ask for your entry fee back when you are on the winners side. You just have to play or forfeit. Now this was an agreed match so I dont know what the terms were so Im not going to say anything negative. But when a bet is made it should be followed through on particularly if the money has been put up with a non aligned party. If the resolution cannot be made because of whatever reasons. Illness, Hurricane Katrina (act of god), or that the race cannot be met. Their should be some agreement by both parties. Either hold the money and play at another time. Or change the particulars of the match. A race instead of a "ahead" situation.
To just up and say I aint playing is not right in my opinion. I think some kind of offer should have been made. Even one of compensation. Some kind of out.
A couple of races for 1K maybe.
I know Ernesto to be a man of his word. And I respect him in every way. And you have undoubtedly gone out of your way to show him this respect. I just wish this respect was given to you.
Whatever the case may be you will come out of this in the long run better. This is not going to be the worse thing that will happen to you in your pool career. You and I know that. But this is the kind of seasoning you will need. Yeah they call you a young gun. And "the kid". But after what I saw in my limited way. You were a man.
If in any way I have the facts wrong I apologize. Im going on what I saw and heard. I was not directly involved in the bet. But I still remain firm about the character of the two competitors. 2 great pros and deserve respect.

[corvette1340]

Ill take John for $100, and Chris for $100 even. Any takers?


hmmmm, you'll take the two prohibitive favorites at even money. Let me see, ummm, no.

[cuetechasaurus]

There's something Mike D. isn't telling us about his match with Ernesto. He is a great guy. You must have really got him pissed if he offered to fight!

My friend watched the match. He said that Mike D. wanted to quit the 12 ahead. Ernesto offered to play a race to 25. Mike D. said no.

I believe Ernesto was offended that Mike D. kept openly accusing him of sharking him on purpose. That among other things.

Was the game changed? No harm in telling the full story.

[yobagua]

Are you guys forgetting about George Lazenby? Timothy Dalton? feh!

[corvette1340]

Are you guys forgetting about George Lazenby? Timothy Dalton? feh!

Sean Connery was the alltime best James Bond, hands down!

[MexPoolPlyr]

Would you like to elaborate WHY he pulled up? Oh and he asked you twice to go outside for a reason... Always 3 sides to a story. We will do a TAR match soon enough my friend with Justin and Nasty being head referrees. WE BET OUR OWN MONEY. 5200 to be exact. The other 800 came in from people we borrowed from because they know we are golden for it. The other 1500 came in from a buddy of mine the next day (saturday).

I would LOVE to play you if you worked for a living and bet your own. Then you'll feel REAL pressure. Granted your a great player. No need to make the action look like it was rigged or onesided... You had 3 days (16hrs to be exact) to beat a guy who plays once a month. Literally. You didnt win because it was your own fault, not because he pulled up. He gave you plenty of action. Now you wanted a clause that forced him to keep on playing (all week if necessary). We cant do that. We run a business... That is why I TOLD HIM TO PULL UP AT EVEN NONETHELESS...

He asked you politely to sit down when he was shooting. You never did. Always chatting and BSing with your friends. Thats cool though, no big deal... You were the one breaking the buttcap of your cue and whining on every shot.

In addition, you were the one who wanted to change the game in middle of set to 9ball race. He countered with 10ball race to 25. YOU DENIED...

Well, dont wanna start a flame thread, just letting you know how it went down from my point of view. See you Saturday Mike. We'll set something up for the future. pze

[yobagua]

iba I believe I was the first bet to offer a friendly bet to my friends. Hows about a little sweat? I still like Kirkwood and Dechaine.
No odds. No line. I think its a toss up.

[yobagua]

Sean Connery was the alltime best James Bond, hands down!

Of course you are right corve. I was trying lighten up the thread cause it seems its going into dark murky waters.

[corvette1340]

iba I believe I was the first bet to offer a friendly bet to my friends. Hows about a little sweat? I still like Kirkwood and Dechaine.
No odds. No line. I think its a toss up.


yobagua, I'll take John and Chris if Iba doesnt want the action.

[Charlie Hustle]

hmmmm, you'll take the two prohibitive favorites at even money. Let me see, ummm, no.
Ok, anyone other than vette? :)

[Ktown D]

iba I believe I was the first bet to offer a friendly bet to my friends. Hows about a little sweat? I still like Kirkwood and Dechaine.
No odds. No line. I think its a toss up.
I'll give you some action big guy. PM me

[gotgame]

Would you like to elaborate WHY he pulled up? Oh and he asked you twice to go outside for a reason... Always 3 sides to a story. We will do a TAR match soon enough my friend with Justin and Nasty being head referrees. WE BET OUR OWN MONEY. 5200 to be exact. The other 800 came in from people we borrowed from because they know we are golden for it. The other 1500 came in from a buddy of mine the next day (saturday).

I would LOVE to play you if you worked for a living and bet your own. Then you'll feel REAL pressure. Granted your a great player. No need to make the action look like it was rigged or onesided... You had 3 days (16hrs to be exact) to beat a guy who plays once a month. Literally. You didnt win because it was your own fault, not because he pulled up. He gave you plenty of action. Now you wanted a clause that forced him to keep on playing (all week if necessary). We cant do that. We run a business... That is why I TOLD HIM TO PULL UP AT EVEN NONETHELESS...

He asked you politely to sit down when he was shooting. You never did. Always chatting and BSing with your friends. Thats cool though, no big deal... You were the one breaking the buttcap of your cue and whining on every shot.

In addition, you were the one who wanted to change the game in middle of set to 9ball race. He countered with 10ball race to 25. YOU DENIED...

Well, dont wanna start a flame thread, just letting you know how it went down from my point of view. See you Saturday Mike. We'll set something up for the future. pze

Where is the action saturday Oscar?

[MexPoolPlyr]

HardTimes Best of West thing. Sorry to keep thread off track. Keep the bets going :)

[corvette1340]

Ok, anyone other than vette? :)


lol, wasn't trying to queer your action Charlie. I just got this image in my head of a golf TAR match and you'd take Tiger and Phil at even money vs. Woody Austin and Billy Mayfair. :D

[Mainplayer]

Would you like to elaborate WHY he pulled up? Oh and he asked you twice to go outside for a reason... Always 3 sides to a story. We will do a TAR match soon enough my friend with Justin and Nasty being head referrees. WE BET OUR OWN MONEY. 5200 to be exact. The other 800 came in from people we borrowed from because they know we are golden for it. The other 1500 came in from a buddy of mine the next day (saturday).

I would LOVE to play you if you worked for a living and bet your own. Then you'll feel REAL pressure. Granted your a great player. No need to make the action look like it was rigged or onesided... You had 3 days (16hrs to be exact) to beat a guy who plays once a month. Literally. You didnt win because it was your own fault, not because he pulled up. He gave you plenty of action. Now you wanted a clause that forced him to keep on playing (all week if necessary). We cant do that. We run a business... That is why I TOLD HIM TO PULL UP AT EVEN NONETHELESS...

He asked you politely to sit down when he was shooting. You never did. Always chatting and BSing with your friends. Thats cool though, no big deal... You were the one breaking the buttcap of your cue and whining on every shot.

In addition, you were the one who wanted to change the game in middle of set to 9ball race. He countered with 10ball race to 25. YOU DENIED...

Well, dont wanna start a flame thread, just letting you know how it went down from my point of view. See you Saturday Mike. We'll set something up for the future. pze

The money was put up Oscar. I should have played until someone had won. We also didn't finish the third day because your dad pulled out at even. The match should have been prorated, but he didn't let that happen. The only reason I wanted to change the game is because he wanted to change it to a ten ball race and I said nine ball. I DID NOT want to quit at anytime during the match. I suggested the 9 ball set so it would get over with a winner that night.

[bignasty]

Would you like to elaborate WHY he pulled up? Oh and he asked you twice to go outside for a reason... Always 3 sides to a story. We will do a TAR match soon enough my friend with Justin and Nasty being head referrees. WE BET OUR OWN MONEY. 5200 to be exact. The other 800 came in from people we borrowed from because they know we are golden for it. The other 1500 came in from a buddy of mine the next day (saturday).

I would LOVE to play you if you worked for a living and bet your own. Then you'll feel REAL pressure. Granted your a great player. No need to make the action look like it was rigged or onesided... You had 3 days (16hrs to be exact) to beat a guy who plays once a month. Literally. You didnt win because it was your own fault, not because he pulled up. He gave you plenty of action. Now you wanted a clause that forced him to keep on playing (all week if necessary). We cant do that. We run a business... That is why I TOLD HIM TO PULL UP AT EVEN NONETHELESS...

He asked you politely to sit down when he was shooting. You never did. Always chatting and BSing with your friends. Thats cool though, no big deal... You were the one breaking the buttcap of your cue and whining on every shot.

In addition, you were the one who wanted to change the game in middle of set to 9ball race. He countered with 10ball race to 25. YOU DENIED...

Well, dont wanna start a flame thread, just letting you know how it went down from my point of view. See you Saturday Mike. We'll set something up for the future. pze
my phone is always on oscar give me a call anytime myfriend!:thumbup:

[Charlie Hustle]

lol, wasn't trying to queer your action Charlie. I just got this image in my head of a golf TAR match and you'd take Tiger and Phil at even money vs. Woody Austin and Billy Mayfair. :D
And whats wrong with that? ;)

[Charlie Hustle]

iba I believe I was the first bet to offer a friendly bet to my friends. Hows about a little sweat? I still like Kirkwood and Dechaine.
No odds. No line. I think its a toss up.
Ill bet something small if you want to. I have paypal and can pay right away if I lose.

[turbo billards]

yea I'll check the weather to make sure we dont get blown away again

[bignasty]

yea I'll check the weather to make sure we dont get blown away again
that was funny as hell when we were in the box and you were studying your blackberry weather reports! i still laugh at how worried you were!:yikes:

[watchez]

Would you like to elaborate WHY he pulled up? Oh and he asked you twice to go outside for a reason... Always 3 sides to a story. We will do a TAR match soon enough my friend with Justin and Nasty being head referrees. WE BET OUR OWN MONEY. 5200 to be exact. The other 800 came in from people we borrowed from because they know we are golden for it. The other 1500 came in from a buddy of mine the next day (saturday).

I would LOVE to play you if you worked for a living and bet your own. Then you'll feel REAL pressure. Granted your a great player. No need to make the action look like it was rigged or onesided... You had 3 days (16hrs to be exact) to beat a guy who plays once a month. Literally. You didnt win because it was your own fault, not because he pulled up. He gave you plenty of action. Now you wanted a clause that forced him to keep on playing (all week if necessary). We cant do that. We run a business... That is why I TOLD HIM TO PULL UP AT EVEN NONETHELESS...

He asked you politely to sit down when he was shooting. You never did. Always chatting and BSing with your friends. Thats cool though, no big deal... You were the one breaking the buttcap of your cue and whining on every shot.

In addition, you were the one who wanted to change the game in middle of set to 9ball race. He countered with 10ball race to 25. YOU DENIED...

Well, dont wanna start a flame thread, just letting you know how it went down from my point of view. See you Saturday Mike. We'll set something up for the future. pze
Sharking is in poor sportsmanship, I can see if that is the case, why Ernesto would be upset. Win the games on the table - not off.

Pulling money off the light is also a big no no. If you had to work, then that is something that should have been agreed upon BEFORE the match started - 6 hours a day, 3 day maximum, prorated at that time. At the VERY LEAST (and this still would not be kosher with me), something should have been said BEFORE the start of day three - not when the games were even & it seemed like a good time to quit.

Nothing wrong with being staked. Some players play better on their own money. Some play better on someone elses money. If you don't like to play a player that is staked, then don't matchup with them. If you like money, then match up with them.

[JCIN]

that was funny as hell when we were in the box and you were studying your blackberry weather reports! i still laugh at how worried you were!:yikes:
I was laughing too. Right up until the tornado destoyed the other end of the building.

From now on I am listening to Turbo.

[bignasty]

I was laughing too. Right up until the tornado destoyed the other end of the building.

From now on I am listening to Turbo.
jcin 1-----nasty.....owned........... mother nature..... not funny!

[eddieindetroit]

I think that Kirkwood lost a set to Chamat about three or four years back. I know he lost to Chohan one time.
Seriously, has anyone ever seen him lose a money set?
Ever?
I can think of a few champions that were hot and rolling over almost everybody in the past few years, that is untill they played Kirkwood.
I have a suspision that Kirkwood plays as good as any American pool player.

Eddie

[1on1pooltournys]

Great post to start the bettors foaming at the mouth.

I am still waiting on the line. I gave my thoughts, but they are both close matches.

I'll take the combo bet, if you want to shift it to Kirkwood even. I believe that match is a little closer than Bartrum and Dechaine. Just an offer.

I like the combo idea. I'd bet even on kirkwood and chris. They both have to win to get the money. Just something to sweat.

[yobagua]

Ill bet something small if you want to. I have paypal and can pay right away if I lose.

check your PM

[derekdisco]

Ill take the Chris and Kirkwizzle if anyone is interested in mike and john.

[Charlie Hustle]

Ill take the Chris and Kirkwizzle if anyone is interested in mike and john.
How bout just a bet between John and Kirkwood? Ill take John if you want to bet something small.

[pbat2751]

I'll be second, no problem. :smile:

gotgame can bet ALL he wants with me, except we must post somewhere. Like with Justin of TAR.


Me too!!!! I like this action

When its too good to be true it usually is. lol

This is a Great set of matches TAR.

[JCIN]

Damn that's funny, too bad it has to be that way.

I took the liberty of printing the flyer in your first post onto 8.5 x11 card stock and willing be posting those in the local pool rooms here in Grand Rapids. Jason has a huge fan base here and I am sure that most of those know nothing of AZB or TAR. Hopefully many will see the flyer, tune in and buy the PPV.

Steve
That is awesome Steve, thank you very much. I will have a .pdf available soon for anyone who wants to print the flyer.

We appreciate the help.

I think anyone who hasn't seen Jason in action is in for a treat.

[dannyb78]

This may be the most stupid thing I ever asked but.... Are the players betting there own $$$$... Getting Staked or a mixture of both....

Or is this money added by TAR or other sponsors..
This was probally a stupid ?

[BVal]

This may be the most stupid thing I ever asked but.... Are the players betting there own $$$$... Getting Staked or a mixture of both....

Or is this money added by TAR or other sponsors..
This was probally a stupid ?
I doubt this is the stupidest thing you have ever asked :) but to answer your question that JCIN answered earlier. It is nobody's business. The money is posted and there is nothing left to do but play for it.

BVal

[jamesroberts]

i will take bartrum and kirkwood

[watchez]

Ill take the Chris and Kirkwizzle if anyone is interested in mike and john.

Send me a PM.

[jay helfert]

Sharking is in poor sportsmanship, I can see if that is the case, why Ernesto would be upset. Win the games on the table - not off.

Pulling money off the light is also a big no no. If you had to work, then that is something that should have been agreed upon BEFORE the match started - 6 hours a day, 3 day maximum, prorated at that time. At the VERY LEAST (and this still would not be kosher with me), something should have been said BEFORE the start of day three - not when the games were even & it seemed like a good time to quit.

Nothing wrong with being staked. Some players play better on their own money. Some play better on someone elses money. If you don't like to play a player that is staked, then don't matchup with them. If you like money, then match up with them.

Ernesto and Oscar prefer to bet their own, always have. Mike will put his money in action too if he likes the game. In this case, he and Adam had a big piece of the bet themselves. They pushed in all they had and got help with the rest.

I wasn't there when the game ended, so I can't really comment on what happened. It was a close match from what I saw, and there were big swings both ways. I can understand the part about Ernesto and Oscar having work commitments, but this is something that should be discussed and agreed upon beforehand.

I have seen long "ahead" matches end like this before, so it is not without precedent. Usually both sides agree to it though. Otherwise there will be a problem with the side who wants to keep playing. And that's what happened here.

[highrun55]

Thanks TAR,
What luck I just transfered money to my pay pal account. I must have esp.

Highrun55

[pbat2751]

That is awesome Steve, thank you very much. I will have a .pdf available soon for anyone who wants to print the flyer.

We appreciate the help.

I think anyone who hasn't seen Jason in action is in for a treat.


Off topic.... CutePDF is free and creates a pdf.

http://www.cutepdf.com/download/CuteWriter.exe

[Mr. Duff]

Just pulling down the new flyer, and reading all the posts in this thread, listening to a local radio, and what comes out? Warren Zevon & Werewolves of London. Made the hair stand up on my arms.....

Sounds like 2 great matches.

The staff at Side Pockets is looking forward to a great weekend.

TO THE PLAYERS:
We will have the Diamond set up by Tuesday afternoon and ready for play. The table was covered and and hasnt been played on since JS & DH got down the last time. We'll dust it off, level it up, and you'll be ready to go.

We also have a GC IV that is tightened up and a great playing table. We will be ready when you are. Save travels to all coming in for this event.

[theoneandonly]

is gonna be a great week. I also enjoy seeing some of the action stirred up here by the players. I am definatley rooting for The PAin in round 1, but I think it is gona be a tight match. In round 2 I like kirkwood, but how can you bet against schmidt? Both these matches I am lookin forward to seing. TAR thansk again.

[The Saw]

I think that Kirkwood lost a set to Chamat about three or four years back. I know he lost to Chohan one time.
Seriously, has anyone ever seen him lose a money set?
Ever?
I can think of a few champions that were hot and rolling over almost everybody in the past few years, that is untill they played Kirkwood.
I have a suspision that Kirkwood plays as good as any American pool player.

Eddie

He does play as good as any American pool player that lives in Michigan... But I like Archer, Cory or SVB's end of it for all of America. That's the beauty of Jay's game, everyone has him under rated or over rated! I've seen Jay lose several other sets than the ones you mentioned but those are scattered over a dozen years or so.... There's a reason for that. HE KNOWS exactly how he plays and he matches up about as well as anyone in the business. When you do that you tend to win way more than you lose. I'm partial in both of these matches but for that reason I like Jay and Chris because if they feel that they are matched up right they tend not to lose.........

Hey Justin...... I noticed that the flyer is lacking nicknames for Jay and Chris.... Can we hook a couple brothers up with some nicknames???? How are a couple of no nickmame guys supposed to play "Mr. 400" and "The Pain" even???? The "Dynamic Duo" has way the worst of it in the nickname department......

Saw

[jjn7612]

jcin 1-----nasty.....owned........... mother nature..... not funny!


So do we have "I survived the tornado" shirts coming???

[JCIN]

He does play as good as any American pool player that lives in Michigan... But I like Archer, Cory or SVB's end of it for all of America. That's the beauty of Jay's game, everyone has him under rated or over rated! I've seen Jay lose several other sets than the ones you mentioned but those are scattered over a dozen years or so.... There's a reason for that. HE KNOWS exactly how he plays and he matches up about as well as anyone in the business. When you do that you tend to win way more than you lose. I'm partial in both of these matches but for that reason I like Jay and Chris because if they feel that they are matched up right they tend not to lose.........

Hey Justin...... I noticed that the flyer is lacking nicknames for Jay and Chris.... Can we hook a couple brothers up with some nicknames???? How are a couple of no nickmame guys supposed to play "Mr. 400" and "The Pain" even???? The "Dynamic Duo" has way the worst of it in the nickname department......

Saw

Will Chris "The Dark Knight" Bartram vanquish "The Pain"?

Will Jason "Boy Wonder" Kirkwood be able to overcome the evil "Mr. 400"?

What will happen to this action dynamic duo?

Tune in July 23-27. Same TAR time same TAR channel !!!!!!!

BAM! Biff! Schwak!!

(Insert 70's Batman TV Theme song here)

LOL....I crack myself up.

I am all about nick names. Send em in. I have never heard nicks for Chris and Jason. I am sure we could fix that though. :D

[JCIN]

So do we have "I survived the tornado" shirts coming???
Nasty had a good idea:

Tornadoes
Are
Real

[iba7467]

I like the combo idea. I'd bet even on kirkwood and chris. They both have to win to get the money. Just something to sweat.

Bet $100 total, same as $50 each. Both picks must win or it's push. Post or PM to confirm.

[iba7467]

Ill take the Chris and Kirkwizzle if anyone is interested in mike and john.

Bet $100 total, same as $50 each. Both picks must win or it's push. Post or PM to confirm.

[iba7467]

i will take bartrum and kirkwood

Bet $100 total, same as $50 each. Both picks must win or it's push. Post or PM to confirm.

[Neil]

For what it's worth, Jason is called Jaybird a lot around here. (His home stomping grounds) Might be 'cause he tends to fly off with your money if you gamble with him. :D

[watchez]

Bartrum is General U.S. Grant - he looks just like him when he doesn't shave.

[Perk]

I will take Kirkwood even for $100.00 with anyone that has a FullTilt poker account for payment transfer as I dont have paypal. PM me.

[Black-Balled]

Bet $100 total, same as $50 each. Both picks must win or it's push. Post or PM to confirm.

Give the dude a chance to get back to you! :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:

[sde]

Give the dude a chance to get back to you! :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:

Look closer, he replied to three (3) different people. :D :p

Steve

[iba7467]

Give the dude a chance to get back to you! :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:


That is with three different people. Gee wizz Wally, I didn't knoooow.

[Ktown D]

Bartrum is General U.S. Grant - he looks just like him when he doesn't shave.
I have also heard Chris referred to as "Sonic" a few years ago.

[corvette1340]

I have also heard Chris referred to as "Sonic" a few years ago.


lol, the poolplayers' favorite drive through?

[Black-Balled]

That is with three different people. Gee wizz Wally, I didn't knoooow.

Wallabe corrected!:slap:

[Thecoats]

iba I believe I was the first bet to offer a friendly bet to my friends. Hows about a little sweat? I still like Kirkwood and Dechaine.
No odds. No line. I think its a toss up.

I will take Schmidt and Bartram for 50 each via paypal if you are interested.

-don

[Ktown D]

lol, the poolplayers' favorite drive through?
It was referenced to me as Sonic....as in the hedgehog.

[john schmidt]

im not saying i have the best of it or anything like that. i like jasons game and i like him as person.
the thing is the guy staking me has some pretty good gamble so if people want to bet with him i feel fairly sure he will bet more on side.
that way if i win ill get half.instead of the rail betting amonst themselves gary will give action which then i can make money.

[yobagua]

Yesterday after booking all my bets online. I walk into my home room and they ask me who I got. I tell them I got about 12 bets. All on Mike D and Kirkwood. A good buddy of mine screams at me.
"Are you crazy??!!! I been on the road with John!!! John is a monster!!! He is a champion. What has this kid ever done? John will horse f**k him!!!!".

Im like "I like Kirkwoods game",

My buddy says "You like his girlfriend is what you like!"

"Yeah that too." says I. "But I seen him play a bunch of times and he never loses! Besides he's got heart. At least Ill get a good sweat out of it."

"What? Never loses on a BAR TABLE is what you saw!!!"
"All you get is a good horse f***ing is what you'll get." road player says.

Jaggoff in the corner mumbles "Maybe he'll like it. Hehehe"

Whole room goes "hehehehe"

Tell me it aint true Jason.

PS Sorry Coats window is closed.

[Thecoats]

Yesterday after booking all my bets online. I walk into my home room and they ask me who I got. I tell them I got about 12 bets. All on Mike D and Kirkwood. A good buddy of mine screams at me.
"Are you crazy??!!! I been on the road with John!!! John is a monster!!! He is a champion. What has this kid ever done? John will horse f**k him!!!!".

Im like "I like Kirkwoods game",

My buddy says "You like his girlfriend is what you like!"

"Yeah that too." says I. "But I seen him play a bunch of times and he never loses! Besides he's got heart. At least Ill get a good sweat out of it."

"What? Never loses on a BAR TABLE is what you saw!!!"
"All you get is a good horse f***ing is what you'll get." road player says.

Jaggoff in the corner mumbles "Maybe he'll like it. Hehehe"

Whole room goes "hehehehe"

Tell me it aint true Jason.

PS Sorry Coats window is closed.

Thanks, I will still take Schmidt and Bartram or Schmidt and Dechaine for 50 per match, I am unsure of the Dechaine Bartram match so I will take either on that match. I will be away from the computer until tomorrow afternoon, so I only want to bet one time with someone else. Payment immediately via PaYPal.

Thanks
-don

[Ktown D]

Yesterday after booking all my bets online. I walk into my home room and they ask me who I got. I tell them I got about 12 bets. All on Mike D and Kirkwood. A good buddy of mine screams at me.
"Are you crazy??!!! I been on the road with John!!! John is a monster!!! He is a champion. What has this kid ever done? John will horse f**k him!!!!".

Im like "I like Kirkwoods game",

My buddy says "You like his girlfriend is what you like!"

"Yeah that too." says I. "But I seen him play a bunch of times and he never loses! Besides he's got heart. At least Ill get a good sweat out of it."

"What? Never loses on a BAR TABLE is what you saw!!!"
"All you get is a good horse f***ing is what you'll get." road player says.

Jaggoff in the corner mumbles "Maybe he'll like it. Hehehe"

Whole room goes "hehehehe"

Tell me it aint true Jason.

PS Sorry Coats window is closed.
I have a couple of bets on John and I really like his game but if anyone thinks he is stealing they are crazy. Jason has a high gear and a good break and the $ don't faze him. Did this so called roadplayer that is so smart offer to post some money and bet since he had the nuts?

[yobagua]

Hey D!

This road player is the one who told me "Justin will horse f**k that kid from Canada!!!" And he had a ton on that one. So far this guy has done good by me. And he hasnt been wrong yet.

[Rahl]

I'll take Johnny for $50 via paypal. Just pm me if you wanna "gamble". ;)

[Ktown D]

Hey D!

This road player is the one who told me "Justin will horse f**k that kid from Canada!!!" And he had a ton on that one. So far this guy has done good by me. And he hasnt been wrong yet.
Yeah, I told you that too....:grin:

[Neil]

JCIN: How much will the ppv be????

[The Saw]

I am all about nick names. Send em in. I have never heard nicks for Chris and Jason. I am sure we could fix that though. :D

Bart likes "The Grinder", that's what he had me put on his IPT resume.... Jay, I would have to go with J-Dog or J-Rock, like Neil (IIRC) said in GR they call him Jaybird. I'd have to lean towards J-Dog (thats what I have in my phone....). I really prefer "Remember St. Louis" or "Broken Arrow" but he'd probably shoot me in the belly if you put that on the flyer, lol....

Saw

[bignasty]

Bart likes "The Grinder", that's what he had me put on his IPT resume.... Jay, I would have to go with J-Dog or J-Rock, like Neil (IIRC) said in GR they call him Jaybird. I'd have to lean towards J-Dog (thats what I have in my phone....). I really prefer "Remember St. Louis" or "Broken Arrow" but he'd probably shoot me in the belly if you put that on the flyer, lol....

Saw
i like kirkdizzill cause he usually gets the benzizalls!

[The Saw]

i like kirkdizzill cause he usually gets the benzizalls!

Bartram may also appreciate "MIKE JONES!!!"

Jay may appreciate "Deeez Nuuuts"..... LOL

[JCIN]

Bart likes "The Grinder", that's what he had me put on his IPT resume.... Jay, I would have to go with J-Dog or J-Rock, like Neil (IIRC) said in GR they call him Jaybird. I'd have to lean towards J-Dog (thats what I have in my phone....). I really prefer "Remember St. Louis" or "Broken Arrow" but he'd probably shoot me in the belly if you put that on the flyer, lol....

Saw
Chris "The Grinder" Bartram and Jason "Broken Arrow" Kirkwood it is.

(Nothing personal Saw, I just wanna see if Kirknizzle will actually pull the trigger)

:D

I do dig the Grinder, I will change the flyer when I get to LA and have some time.

[The Saw]

Chris "The Grinder" Bartram and Jason "Broken Arrow" Kirkwood it is.

(Nothing personal Saw, I just wanna see if Kirknizzle will actually pull the trigger)

:D

I do dig the Grinder, I will change the flyer when I get to LA and have some time.

My big mouth will probably get me shot in the belly...... Hopefully he doesn't shoot as straight with a gat as he does with a cue! HE'll have to shoot pretty bad if he misses my belly.... :eek: It's a funny story how I gave him the Broken Arrow nickname, at least me and Bart thought it was funny. Jay, not so much.........

Saw

[ilovepool]

I like Schmidt and Bartrum. Will bet 100 on each. Pay via paypal. If interested please send me a PM.

[iba7467]

They all say they want Kirkwood and Bartrum but after I post up they have action I get no response. What's up with that?

[Southpaw]

I will bet a little on Kirkwood and Deschaine...Let me know.

Southpaw

[junior718]

Ill bet on kirwood and dechaine

[pimp]

I'll take john and Bartrum for $100 each if anyones still looking to bet.

[junior718]

ill take that bet $100 each match

[pimp]

ok its a bet junior... wish me luck:thumbup:

[derekdisco]

They all say they want Kirkwood and Bartrum but after I post up they have action I get no response. What's up with that?

Youre too good of a line maker/match gambler. You jumped up too fast. If you want John and Mike, im gonna need 10 games with each player.

[Fast Lenny]

Anyone want John Schmidt for $200,I want Kirkwood. :wink:

[JJsooted]

Will take 100 action on each, even. No games on the wire, no bs. Will paypal right away as some here can attest to. (DD I sent my friend Andrew Jackson to visit you). :angry:

Jay

[markgw]

I will take the guy that just beat Harriman and CJ Wiley for 5k in 48 minutes 10 ahead in 9 ball John S.

[iba7467]

Anyone want John Schmidt for $200,I want Kirkwood. :wink:

I want that action

[watchez]

I want that action
Too late - I already got Lenny right where I want him, with his hands just about to dig for his wallet.

[Fatboy]

there is a 75% chance i'm going to be there, with my body guard, ready to bet. If my guard dosent show up that means I wont be betting much,

[The Saw]

there is a 75% chance i'm going to be there, with my body guard, ready to bet. If my guard dosent show up that means I wont be betting much,

Which way are you betting?

[bignasty]

there is a 75% chance i'm going to be there, with my body guard, ready to bet. If my guard dosent show up that means I wont be betting much,
you can sit by me fatboy! lol:thumbup:

[The Saw]

Which way are you betting?

Come on Eric..... Enquiring minds want to know!

[Fatboy]

Come on Eric..... Enquiring minds want to know!


I cant put that biz in the street. Sorry, But I very rarely say who I bet on. I dont mean to be a ass but I bet thousands, sometimes 5 figures spread out. It is just bad business for me to say anything. I appericate the respect of who I bet with and its their biz too so I just have a policy-I keep it private, thanks for understanding. If I bet $50 I will say because its small and just for fun.

When I book a loser, like when I bet on Alex at the DCC I might say something, I never say anything(on the internet-i might say something on the rail) when I win.




I will say this about the upcomming TAR matches, I think that they are all gonna be close, no one is stealing. I will be suprised if there is a 25 game difference in a race to 100, I think both sets the loser will get to 87 or more.


thanks gentalman

Fatboy

[iba7467]

I think both sets the loser will get to 87 or more.


thanks gentalman

Fatboy

You've got action for $50

[corvette1340]

I cant put that biz in the street. Sorry, But I very rarely say who I bet on. I dont mean to be a ass but I bet thousands, sometimes 5 figures spread out. It is just bad business for me to say anything. I appericate the respect of who I bet with and its their biz too so I just have a policy-I keep it private, thanks for understanding. If I bet $50 I will say because its small and just for fun.

When I book a loser, like when I bet on Alex at the DCC I might say something, I never say anything(on the internet-i might say something on the rail) when I win.




I will say this about the upcomming TAR matches, I think that they are all gonna be close, no one is stealing. I will be suprised if there is a 25 game difference in a race to 100, I think both sets the loser will get to 87 or more.


thanks gentalman

Fatboy


would you let me pick my two horses for $2000 a set?

[gpeezy]

Youre too good of a line maker/match gambler. You jumped up too fast. If you want John and Mike, im gonna need 10 games with each player.
I love it! First I've heard a guy has to spot because he bets the right way. Brutal.

[iba7467]

I love it! First I've heard a guy has to spot because he bets the right way. Brutal.

Hang around me more often, it gets worse.

I've had guys turn down coin flips because I've won too many in a row.

I've had guys tell me in a calcutta that they weren't going to bye half themself until they saw I won it and figured they were a lock to place in the money.

I've know guys that wouldn't bet against me running up a wall backwards.

[corvette1340]

Hang around me more often, it gets worse.

I've had guys turn down coin flips because I've won too many in a row.

I've had guys tell me in a calcutta that they weren't going to bye half themself until they saw I won it and figured they were a lock to place in the money.

I've know guys that wouldn't bet against me running up a wall backwards.


I bet you can't make it rain like I can.

[Thecoats]

Will take 100 action on each, even. No games on the wire, no bs. Will paypal right away as some here can attest to. (DD I sent my friend Andrew Jackson to visit you). :angry:

Jay

PM Sent on the above.

[Fast Lenny]

Too late - I already got Lenny right where I want him, with his hands just about to dig for his wallet.
Jason "The Killer" Kirkwood will win,God told me so. :smile:

[xianmacx]

I'd like to get another bet down on kirkwood and Bartrum.

[iba7467]

I'd like to get another bet down on kirkwood and Bartrum.

I'll take Schmidt and Dechaine. How much?

[HUSTLIN$$]

this is going to be a grat showdown between 4 great players.

[usakr]

Kirkwood is going to win. People just don't understand how good he is.

[JCIN]

We are streaming LIVE now on the Pay Per View. Chris is practicing and we will do some interviews about 3:30 PM Central / 4:30 Central with the match starting at 4 Central / 5 Eastern.

Go here for info on the match: www.theactionreport.com

[iba7467]

Anyone know any match stats like:

Who has run more racks?
Who has missed more makeable balls?
Who has fouled the most?

[sde]

Anyone know any match stats like:

Who has run more racks?
Who has missed more makeable balls?
Who has fouled the most?

I took a few notes on the 80 games last night.

Break and runs
JS = 9, including the last game of the night
JK = 3

Run after dry break or scratch on break
JS = 3
JK = 11

10 ball breaks
JS = 1
JK = 2

My notes are not clear enough to answer your other two questions. :o

Steve

Note: When the DVD comes out you can check my accuracy.:groucho:

[Charlie Hustle]

Whats the score, and when do they start today?

[pool4u]

John Schmidt is leading 70 - 63 and they'll resume tonight at 7:00 Central.

Unless the time has changed, I'm pretty confident in this information.

[Charlie Hustle]

John Schmidt is leading 70 - 63 and they'll resume tonight at 7:00 Central.

Unless the time has changed, I'm pretty confident in this information.
Thank you.

[markgw]

Thank you.
Congrats John Schmidt well done buddy and Jason you played great too good luck to you both. Gary have you ever booked a loser?