Run This (49)

[bluepepper]

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[bluepepper]

I found this one to be very tricky. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go in to the line up of balls to mix things up and reevaluate.

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[rikdee]

Taking the 3 out first is a reasonable play. From there, I like getting on the 15 and slide the CB between the 2 and 5 and start working from there. I wouldn't necessarily resolve to hit the line of balls; they all go as they rest or possibly one could be nudged out for an additonal break ball potential during their clearance.

_Rick

[3andstop]

Wow, lots of balls out there. :) Please reassure me if possible that with 11 balls on the table I'm not the only one here who would, when confronted with a layout like this on the real playing table, go from plan "A" all the way perhaps to plan "E" :scratchhead:

[bluepepper]

I can certainly reassure you 3andstop. Even watching the big guns play, you can tell that they're plans change constantly. That's why I like the whole insurance zone style. It's safe and gives you options.

rikdee, I know that once balls go into pockets you're not supposed to bump anything, but try doing it with this layout and you'll see that it's easier said than done. A line-up of balls is quickly becoming one of the things I don't want to see on a table. It seems to me that this is one of the hardest things to negotiate without bumping.

[mullyman]

Forget it. I had a wei diagram all made up and when I went through it I screwed up on page 6. Not in the mood to do it all over right now. Let me just say that I started with the 15 and going between the 5-2 and working from there. I left the 7,8,2 as my last balls with the option in mind of using either the 8 or the 2 as my break ball.
MULLY

[mullyman]

I can certainly reassure you 3andstop. Even watching the big guns play, you can tell that they're plans change constantly. That's why I like the whole insurance zone style. It's safe and gives you options.

rikdee, I know that once balls go into pockets you're not supposed to bump anything, but try doing it with this layout and you'll see that it's easier said than done. A line-up of balls is quickly becoming one of the things I don't want to see on a table. It seems to me that this is one of the hardest things to negotiate without bumping.


I agree 110% that not bumping at least the 12 ball is going to be difficult to pull off without flawless execution. But, you and I differ on the opinion of a line of balls. I like them when they're lined up like that. hehe!!
MULLY

[bluepepper]

I know it can be frustrating when you lose the layout.
That cut on the 15-ball is pretty steep. I don't think I would be able to hold the cueball off of the rail for the lined up balls.

[mullyman]

I know it can be frustrating when you lose the layout.
That cut on the 15-ball is pretty steep. I don't think I would be able to hold the cueball off of the rail for the lined up balls.


Nah, I was clearing out that 2 and 5 before I got started on the line of balls. Today's a new day, I'll see about doing my diagram again.
MULLY

[spoons]

moving the 2? (gasp!)

I know it's taboo to move a break ball, but I'm gonna do it this time, and get started on manufacturing a new one. (or try anyway).

The 2 is probably the most obvious break ball as they lay, but it's also the ball responsible for why that line is so difficult to fall on. In fact, I'm fairly certain that if I took the 2 ball off the table right now, I'd feel pretty good about my chances to get out.

So, I'm going to start with with a tough shot that has a big pay off if I make it. These threads are "run this" and not "what's the conservative shot" so what the heck, right?

Cuetable was giving me a hard time too Mullyman, so I only had the patience for the first couple of shots. Maybe I'll post the rest of it later, but I wanted to illustrate these first two.

I'll cut the 15 and try to draw squarely into the 2 and stop right there. I don't think the cut is so thin that you need to hit is super hard, but I could be wrong. I'd love to hit it just hard enough to knock the 2 ball up by the side pocket off the rail. I'd like to fall on the 4 ball first, but if something goes awry, I've got insurance with the 5, 10 and even a couple other places.

From there I want to make the 4 and go into the 12 and 13. From what I can tell, it looks wired to nudge that 13 into the 8, and leave the 13 as a break ball.

Both of those first two shots require pretty good touch, but that's why I'm going for it early, and always with insurance balls.

My pattern from there would depend on where that 2 ball ended up, but I think it's more manageable this way than trying to manuever around the 2.

What do you guys think?

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[bluepepper]

spoons, I think that's smart. It looks like an easy run after that.
Nice idea.

[spoons]

Thanks, Jeff. Of course, once I'm at the table, it might look completely different, and there's no guarantee that I'll be able to execute either shot....

[md5key]

Never done this before:

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[bluepepper]

I'm glad you decided to contribute. Welcome.