BCA Revises Dress Code, Bans Ipods

[shinyballs]

Here's the revised code and an exerpt regarding electronic devices. I like this because I get annoyed at anyone who plays [against someone else] while listening to their ipod.

http://www.playbca.com/portals/0/2007_8ball/ndc.pdf

Absolutely no electronic accessories of any kind are permitted to be accessed or worn as headgear during a match. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Headphones, earphones, or electronic earplugs of any kind, including Bluetooth accessories, whether powered on or not. Medically required hearing aids are permitted.
• Cell phones, pagers, or music devices of any kind. Cell phones may be worn on the belt or kept in pockets, but may not be accessed for messages or conversations:
�� at any time during a match by singles or scotch doubles players;
�� during the player's game in team play.

[ragbug74]

Man, that's a lot of dress codes. If they're going to go through all that, it would probably be easier for them to issue uniforms to ensure everyone's dress is acceptable. I'm all for making sure people are dressed appropriately and all, but some of these points are pretty anal.

[Slider]

Man, that's a lot of dress codes. If they're going to go through all that, it would probably be easier for them to issue uniforms to ensure everyone's dress is acceptable. I'm all for making sure people are dressed appropriately and all, but some of these points are pretty anal.

I agree. Once someone institutes a set of rules this comprehensive, it usually turns into a huge conflict.

For instance, this was taken from the section on "Prohibited Clothing"

Any clothing or headwear judged by tournament officials or referees to be:
• disrespectful or mocking of the sport in any way (e.g., sleep wear, period clothing worn as a joke, etc.);

Is this rule really necessary? Every woman has a pair or two, but I'm sure no one would ever consider wearing them in public, jokingly or not. :eek:

But I can appreciate the ban on electronic devices.

First of all, they interfere with the game, since your opponent has imposed a hearing handicap on himself in a situation where a certain amount of communication is necessary between players, particularly in unrefereed matches.

Second, it's just a matter of time before people start coaching via radio.

Ken

[ragbug74]

I agree on the electronic devices. As the technology gets cheaper and smaller, it would only be a matter of time until people were wirelessly coaching......it's probably already happening.

Some of the clothing details are out of hand.

[Njhustler1]

:eek: Wow. That clothing reg. list is just completely out of control.

[Cuebacca]

I didn't think the dress code sounded too bad. :o I only read it once though, so maybe I missed something. It seems that, according to the dress code, you can simply wear jeans and a collared shirt, as long as they meet certain requirements like no significant tears in the jeans, etc.

For shoes, it sounds like you can even wear sneakers. I was under the impression that I needed to bring some dress shoes. Or are sneakers not considered "normal in the manner of its style and wear"? Sounds like they just trying to say no big red clown shoes, or something weird like that.

Without all the detail, I think 99.9% of us would be fine, but they probably just put the detail in there for the 1 out of 1,000 people that shows up with something really out there, and puts up a big stink saying that the rules never said he couldn't wear that. Then they can say, "look buddy, we're not just out to get you. Here's the dress code."

That's my take on it anyway. LOL.

[duckie]

There is nothing wrong with the dress code. If the players look respectable maybe there will be more respect for the sport. Its a imagine thing. PGA, Pro bowling has a dress code.

Just think if you could get a clothing company to sponsor a major tourney.

[jwilliams]

To me it actually looks like some of the restrictions have been loosened this year. Specifically the one about being able to wear jackets over the team shirt. One of our local girls here from St. Louis was told, last year during the team tournament, she had to remove her jacket otherwise she didn't fit the dress code and wouldn't be allowed to play. It was ridiculous, she was just cold!

[cigardave]

Rules are made for the obedience of fools... and guidance of the wise.

[rlw]

Here's the revised code and an exerpt regarding electronic devices. I like this because I get annoyed at anyone who plays [against someone else] while listening to their ipod.

http://www.playbca.com/portals/0/2007_8ball/ndc.pdf

Absolutely no electronic accessories of any kind are permitted to be accessed or worn as headgear during a match. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Headphones, earphones, or electronic earplugs of any kind, including Bluetooth accessories, whether powered on or not. Medically required hearing aids are permitted.
• Cell phones, pagers, or music devices of any kind. Cell phones may be worn on the belt or kept in pockets, but may not be accessed for messages or conversations:
�� at any time during a match by singles or scotch doubles players;
�� during the player's game in team play.

but what's the penalty if you are using ipods, cell phones or whatever??

[n10spool]

not to long ago everyone was wearing suits and ties so think the dress code is pretty simple today. What do you want player a in a thong a player b in marbles bags that way your clothes cant foul a ball it will be Caveman billiards
make it a $1,500 buyin pay out the top 1\4 of the field heck we might get more tv time then the I.P.T. and they had a nice dress code to with a $2000 buyin .....

I agree no electronics in the playing area and rules just weed out the idiots first thats all.


Just felt like stirring the pot a little not trying to make every totaly mad .

[senor]

Second, it's just a matter of time before people start coaching via radio.

ROTFLMAO!!

[Snapshot9]

don't have a sense of style or even how to match up their clothes, and clothing or shoes ripped or torn should not be worn. To have a good image of the sport, and for the general public, clothing should be in keeping with the image that the sport wants to project without being too 'formal'.

Electronic devices, I agree wholeheartedly. The exchanges and conversations between opposing players and refs are the first priority in a match, and anything interferring with that should be banned.

And someone, I don't who, backer or not, buy Corey Deuel another shirt to wear other than that Peach colored mock turtleneck shirt he has on in every TV match, surely he can win enough money to buy a couple more shirts.

[MOJOE]

I played in the event this year and had no issues with the dress code. I wore comfortable jeans, sneakers and a golf polo with a collar. I was very comfortable and thought that it was nice to bring a bit of class to the event.

I just don't see the big deal with having a few rules to follow!

[Paul Dayton]

Male pool players, professional and amateur have been opposed to any rules as long as I have known. (1960's)

Golf, bowling, womens pool all have codes that are followed. Of course, they have tours and sponsors. The male pool players have freedom to do as they please without a sponsor or tour.

The BCA codes are just common sense.

[SharpPT]

The strange thing was having women wear collered shirts. We went in to see the Pros play and every woman playing while we were there had a blouse on without a coller. They all looked very professional, but none wore a collered shirt. Forcing the amature women to wear a collered shirt is crazy. Better to say no T-shirts. A dressy blouse without a coller is fine.

[etimmons]

This was my 3rd year at bca and there were no problems with the dress code or the rules. And yes there was coaching with a phone, texted the pattern to the player that was one of the reasons for the rule change.

[LILJOHN30]

I think this year everyone should wear shorts and a t-shirt and protest.I'm going to need a tailor to abide to this dress code.

[crosseyedjoe]

Man, that's a lot of dress codes. If they're going to go through all that, it would probably be easier for them to issue uniforms to ensure everyone's dress is acceptable. I'm all for making sure people are dressed appropriately and all, but some of these points are pretty anal.

What would happen to those players who are also characters, who dress up "specially" unique?

[olauzon]

hands down absolutely perfect codes. it looks like a friggen zoo these days. i'm ok, more than ok at my bars, but at a champion ship? nah..

maybe they're trying to do something gentle for the sport; maybe they're protecting themselves, i don't care. dress like a man once a year shouldn't be much of a problem.

[Darby]

Most of organized sports (all team sports, golfers, tennis players, etc.) have dress codes. Even the beer guzzling bowlers :D tend to have dress codes!
I don't see what's wrong with promoting a little class among the pool players. If we want to promote the game, we MUST make the game respectible. Unfortunately, too many of our players don't appear to respect the game, their opponents or themselves!

[KBP]

but what's the penalty if you are using ipods, cell phones or whatever??

Don't know about the BCA but on the Kings Bay Amateur Tour they can use the IPOD but cell phones and pagers are out unless they can prove they are emergency personnel and live in that area. The penalty is first a warning, then lost of game then lost of match. I had some problems with people texting each other in between their time at the table from other tables and it was interference since they were coaching each other. One got smart as I was walking away and said I couldn't do anything about it and he was losing anyway so I turned and said fine then I forfeith you for unsportsman like conduct.
Kay

[VietSoClassic]

My fellow league players saying you must wear team shirts when playing in vegas... Does it mean everyday? Or you can just wear casual shirts and etc. when you run out of your team shirts?

Viet.

[shinyballs]

As far as I know, in past years all team member must have matching shirts and must wear then for every match. Someone correct me if this has changed.

I'm not there this year :(

...and why am I replying to such an old thread?? And who hijacked this thread with dress code b.s.?

[ne14tennis]

As far as I know, in past years all team member must have matching shirts and must wear then for every match. Someone correct me if this has changed.

I'm not there this year :(

...and why am I replying to such an old thread?? And who hijacked this thread with dress code b.s.?

All team members must have matching shirts....no different this year

[mullyman]

Basically that rules page says "DON'T DRESS LIKE A SLOB" it's as simple as that. Only problem is that there are a lot of slobs in pool. I saw an accustats match with a guy wearing jeans hanging off his ass, a faded t-shirt and an open flannel over it. If you dress like Earl you're not allowed in.

I've never been a big fan of big Japanese tournament dress codes but I gotta admit that everyone looks nice.

For the all Japan tournament the dress code was white shirt, tie, vest, slacks, and no tennis shoes. Yes, slacks means no jeans. They turned their head the other way if you wore all black sneakers but if they had any color on them at all they wouldn't allow you in the tournament room, as a player that is.

Extremely uncomfortable but we sure looked nice. No one could walk into that room and say "Man, look at these sloppy pool players"
MULLY

[JE54]

The electronic device ban is a good idea.