What is the "real" reason that the players don't have a National Organization? The way the US is being treated by most of the other countries and their promoters we sure could use our own National Organization…like NOW.
Money, money, money.
MONEY!
Money, money, money.
MONEY!
What is the "real" reason that the players don't have a National Organization? The way the US is being treated by most of the other countries and their promoters we sure could use our own National Organization…like NOW.
greed, plain and simple. Not enough money to get the players paid what they deserve and to support someone intelligent enough to get the organization off and running. You need someone with their own wealth that loves pool and has integrity to run it. I wish I was wealthy enough to do so. Sadly, the world has a lot of wealthy people that just don't like pool or who are flat out too greedy to enjoy someone else's success.
I'll take my Pie but you can't have a slice, go bake your own.
Yeah, well we all know that baseball players and football players are not greedy. That is why they have organized --- right?
It may have more to do with the idea that there simply is not a fan base that would encourage sponsors to exploit this source and meet their needs to make a profit. We don't call it greed if it is commercial
I think it may have more to do with the idea that players don’t have managers to negotiate their needs (greed).
Women's pool, as entertainment, makes someone money.
greed, plain and simple. Not enough money to get the players paid what they deserve and to support someone intelligent enough to get the organization off and running. You need someone with their own wealth that loves pool and has integrity to run it. I wish I was wealthy enough to do so. Sadly, the world has a lot of wealthy people that just don't like pool or who are flat out too greedy to enjoy someone else's success.
OK Guys,
I've said it before but here it is again. It's all about the potential for the Olympics. Whichever pool organization becomes recognized by the IOC as the American representative will get rich. Right now, there is no incentive to work together.
Check out how much money the IOC pours into bobsleding. Carbon fiber chassis, body work and windtunnel time. Strength training for the participants. Housing and training facilities. The participants must eat, travel and compete. It's a full time job working for the US Olympic team.
For years I've suggested the various sanctioning bodies do a couple of simple things. First, determine who the current American "professional" pool players are and how others can become one. Second, police the "open" brackets to keep the closet "pro's" from stealing "amateur" events. I don't believe either is being done by anyone. The ACS does post a "Pro" list on their website but thats as close as it gets. To the best of my knowledge, our current sanctioning bodies can not even agree on either point. Or hire a shared person to make it happen.
Regardless of their original intentions, the Olympics have become a venue to showcase professional athletes in their particular sport. Ours will be no different. JohnnyT, you and me have no chance of representing our country. The only Johnny will be Archer.
To me, the only good thing about this is, once an American representative has been determined, they will have to have some mechanism to determine who will represent us. It will force them to have a real professional tour. The organizers will have the money to make it happen! Sponsors who shunned our sport will suddenly want to be associated with it. That is once the "Olympics" tag is attached.
Lyn
dam right, the answer to 99 out of 100 questions is MONEY
There is plenty running around, just no one wants to get together....I'll take my Pie but you can't have a slice, go bake your own.
This is the motto of most major pool organizations imop that goes for big cue companies to the APA amongst others.
I said awhile back if all major companies get together solid, they could get 5million
5,000,000= ONE HUNDRED 50k dollar added tournaments across the country
Thats TWO 50k$ added tournaments a week.
Think about it,
Grey Ghost
Can't no one tell me that would be hard for all those companies to do, cutek sells what a million cues+ a year? There are what 500k league players? The money Brunswick makes? They take from the pool players, and the players are basically supporting each other, getting basically nothing in return. I think its a shame that tho I work hard out here, most of the time I have nothing to do...and I make more than everyone of the professionals on the money list except the top 4-6 this year depending on how they end up in another month. Its a crying shame.
I understand the greed thing to a point, but ultimately its you and I that pay the way. Its the lack of fan support the hurts this sport. How many people actually pay to watch a PRO tourney. From what I can tell there is very little fan based support. And if the fans won't support their sport then who should? If attendance were to be high at events, then perhaps TV would take notice. But until then, the sport will be hidden in smokey pool rooms and the unsupported events.
bull they need more afterschool programs and college programs, the kids will provide more than the olympics as the parents will get more involved. We need more instructors, teachers etc...ITS THE KIDS NOT THE OLYMPICS....but keep telling yourself that the olympics is going to save us LMAO......don't believe the hype, Grey GHost
OK Guys,
I've said it before but here it is again. It's all about the potential for the Olympics. Whichever pool organization becomes recognized by the IOC as the American representative will get rich. Right now, there is no incentive to work together.
Check out how much money the IOC pours into bobsleding. Carbon fiber chassis, body work and windtunnel time. Strength training for the participants. Housing and training facilities. The participants must eat, travel and compete. It's a full time job working for the US Olympic team.
For years I've suggested the various sanctioning bodies do a couple of simple things. First, determine who the current American "professional" pool players are and how others can become one. Second, police the "open" brackets to keep the closet "pro's" from stealing "amateur" events. I don't believe either is being done by anyone. The ACS does post a "Pro" list on their website but thats as close as it gets. To the best of my knowledge, our current sanctioning bodies can not even agree on either point. Or hire a shared person to make it happen.
Regardless of their original intentions, the Olympics have become a venue to showcase professional athletes in their particular sport. Ours will be no different. JohnnyT, you and me have no chance of representing our country. The only Johnny will be Archer.
To me, the only good thing about this is, once an American representative has been determined, they will have to have some mechanism to determine who will represent us. It will force them to have a real professional tour. The organizers will have the money to make it happen! Sponsors who shunned our sport will suddenly want to be associated with it. That is once the "Olympics" tag is attached.
Lyn