Yes, it's another Kevin Varney thread!

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Rocket354

Rocket354

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So I have yet to hear a peep from Mr. KV despite his claims that he's going through and contacting everyone. I'm wondering how much contacting he's really done?

People who are waiting for cues:

1) Has he contacted you?

2) What has he said?

I think this is important information to share so that people know if KV is really making serious attempts, or if he's just blowing more smoke.
 
Man, can't you put this in the other forum section, as opposed to the Main Section?

There have been numerous threads about Kevin Varney here. Couldn't you have selected one of those, rather than creating a brand-new thread?

I am sorry that you are experiencing difficulties in your communication with Kevin Varney, but take it on over to the other forum. Maybe it might be better to pull up one of the other Varney threads and continue on bashing him, if that's what rocks your socks.

JAM
 
I think the message would get lost in one of the old threads and that this message needs to be seen.
 
JimS said:
I think the message would get lost in one of the old threads and that this message needs to be seen.
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There are so many off-with-Kevin-Varney's-head threads on AZ lately, they might as well create a sub-forum here called Bash KV. Honestly, the fact that the thrashing has been allowed to continue is amazing.
 
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Roadkill said:
There are so many off-with-Kevin-Varney's-head threads on AZ lately, they might as well create a sub-forum here called Bash KV. Honestly, the fact that the thrashing has been allowed to continue it amazing.
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Well if its happening then its most likely for a reason,poor customer service apparantley which is a shame because some have said he makes a nice break cue. :cool:
 
Roadkill said:
There are so many off-with-Kevin-Varney's-head threads on AZ lately, they might as well create a sub-forum here called Bash KV. Honestly, the fact that the thrashing has been allowed to continue it amazing.
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What's truly amazing is that he has not been banned from here for his actions. The so called bashing is nothing but stating the truth. Some of Kevin's fans just can't comprehend why everyone is so mad because they don't want to.
 
why dont you just start 2 poll threads. one for people waiting with different times and one for people'll that've gotten their cues. with very few comments. no bashing just numbers
 
JAM said:
Man, can't you put this in the other forum section, as opposed to the Main Section?

There have been numerous threads about Kevin Varney here. Couldn't you have selected one of those, rather than creating a brand-new thread?

I am sorry that you are experiencing difficulties in your communication with Kevin Varney, but take it on over to the other forum. Maybe it might be better to pull up one of the other Varney threads and continue on bashing him, if that's what rocks your socks.

JAM
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Sorry JAM but you're wrong here.

I mean, its not a topic for the Cue Gallery section as nothing is being displayed. And its not a topic for the Wanted/For Sale as nothing is being sold.

Its 'pool related' as it has to do with a transaction between two individuals (both members of this pool-related message board) for a very pool-related product.

So, where exactly do you suggest this thread be moved to?!? This is exactly where is belongs. And if its something you don't want to read about, perhaps the best thing to do is, in the 1.5 seconds it takes you to read the title of the thread, you should skip over it once you see KV's name. Plain and simple.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
why dont you just start 2 poll threads. one for people waiting with different times and one for people'll that've gotten their cues. with very few comments. no bashing just numbers
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this is a really good idea and would eliminate the need for more threads. there'd be no bashing just numbers to keep people updated
 
Thoughts of an uninvolved bystander

I know it is easy for me to say, not being involved, but I say just give the man a little bit more time to do what he has promised.

If I was involved I would want him in the shop building cues instead of wasting time trying to answer everyones questions.

Below are quotes from the Kevin Varney news.... thread started by KV. IMHO let him have the chance to live up to these promises. And if he fails at this then bash him all you like.



Quotes posted by KV.
Yes my pc crashed so I don't have one in my shop any longer, although I will have it correctly repaired shortly. I still will not be on AZ everyday as I'm trying to spend as much possible time working in the shop. Would you rather have me spending time here or building cues?
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So to sum up....EVERYONE WILL GET THERE CUES....PERIOD!!!

Yes as everyone knows I am running very much behind but I will indeed be caught up...and I mean sooner rather than later. I will over the next few days try to answer my emails & pm's...relax if you haven't heard from me...I will get to you.

Every few days I will post pics of members delivered cues in the Gallery for all to see. And I'll try to name a few names on the short list. Everyones cues are started and many are very near completetion. I would like to thank my patient customers....you will be rewarded with an awesome cue. For others....the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease...not in cuemaking. I try to keep the cues in order as best as possible instead of working on whomever is complaining the most....as many cuemakers do.
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Like I said in my previous thread....I haven't gone anywhere...just spending as much time as possible in the shop....building quality cues as fast as the wood, family, and God will allow.
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I am in no way saying that the over booking and lack of communication by KV was the right way to do business, only to give him the chance to make it right.

Steve
 
He has yet to contact me.

I was contacted by him in response to me wanting an ebony sneaky pete in August. He said i could have one made in 60 days because he had a blank already done. I said sure!! I had heard a few times that it was "all down hill from here" and that i was on schedule to be late january,, now remeber in August he said 60 days. I paid in full and now it is May and i have yet to hear anything since early Feb.

I order a lot of cues from prolific makers and this is truly amazing.

We found out my wife was pregnant in July so i wanted a cue in August to use a take to my LAST derby for a while since i will have a family now. 60 days was plenty to get used to it, and then i figured in April i would sell it or keep it when i quit playing because of the birth of my daughter. WELLLLLLLLLL May, and i do not have a cue!!!!!

I am not bad mouthing until i use it and with me he can easlily resolve this by telling me the EXACT date my cue will be sent as i have asked 10 times.
 
The reason I started a new one was to draw attention that wouldn't happen by posting at the tail end of one of those 18 page behemoths--I wanted to see where other people stood. No answers yet, so inconclusive. I apologize to anyone who's had enough reading about KV. You can always not click on the thread.

This wasn't intended to be a bash KV thread, I think if you read the OP without that assumption already in place you'll see I'm just trying to have information shared.

The fact that no one has responded to the original question I think either means even people involved are sick of the whole thing (believe me, I am, I'd just like my refund so I can go on my merrry way) or perhaps people are afraid that saying too much will result in KV being vindictive in some way.

But really, benefit of the doubt? Chance to make it right? He's had those things and more. He keeps doing the same thing--ignoring people and stalling. I believe I'll get my cue. It just might take another 4 or 6 months. He broke his promise, so I just want a refund. But he's not so much as even acknowledging that I exist...

Whoops, I guess now it's a "bash KV thread" huh? All these pesky facts that make him look like a bad guy.
 
cincyman said:
He has yet to contact me.

I was contacted by him in response to me wanting an ebony sneaky pete in August. He said i could have one made in 60 days because he had a blank already done. I said sure!! I had heard a few times that it was "all down hill from here" and that i was on schedule to be late january,, now remeber in August he said 60 days. I paid in full and now it is May and i have yet to hear anything since early Feb.

I order a lot of cues from prolific makers and this is truly amazing.

We found out my wife was pregnant in July so i wanted a cue in August to use a take to my LAST derby for a while since i will have a family now. 60 days was plenty to get used to it, and then i figured in April i would sell it or keep it when i quit playing because of the birth of my daughter. WELLLLLLLLLL May, and i do not have a cue!!!!!

I am not bad mouthing until i use it and with me he can easlily resolve this by telling me the EXACT date my cue will be sent as i have asked 10 times.
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Thank you, Cincy. This is the exact sort of information I and others are looking for.

Question: you knew at the time you ordered you wanted the cue on a short timeframe. Did you tell KV this before he gave you his 60 day timeframe?
 
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Rocket354 said:
The reason I started a new one was to draw attention that wouldn't happen by posting at the tail end of one of those 18 page behemoths--I wanted to see where other people stood. No answers yet, so inconclusive. I apologize to anyone who's had enough reading about KV. You can always not click on the thread.

This wasn't intended to be a bash KV thread, I think if you read the OP without that assumption already in place you'll see I'm just trying to have information shared.

The fact that no one has responded to the original question I think either means even people involved are sick of the whole thing (believe me, I am, I'd just like my refund so I can go on my merrry way) or perhaps people are afraid that saying too much will result in KV being vindictive in some way.

But really, benefit of the doubt? Chance to make it right? He's had those things and more. He keeps doing the same thing--ignoring people and stalling. I believe I'll get my cue. It just might take another 4 or 6 months. He broke his promise, so I just want a refund. But he's not so much as even acknowledging that I exist...

Whoops, I guess now it's a "bash KV thread" huh? All these pesky facts that make him look like a bad guy.
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You have done nothing wrong, and everything right. This can never be allowed to die until all is corrected, our new members do not deserve to be the next victims. Hopefully this information will give others what they need to make the correct decision when making purchases on this or any other Internet Forum.

Good luck, you certainly have more support than dissension!!!!!
 
By the way, my little picture post was entirely in-jest. I'm not supporting KV or against the guy. It's prob fair to say I'm tired of the 2000 threads about the guy (which, from what i gather, are justified).

HOWEVER, posting threads won't get your cue done faster. If you wish in one hand and shit in the other--- one hand will fill-up a lot quicker.

I'd call for a refund, if I didn't get a response, I'd pay $50 and call a district magistrate to serve him papers. That usually gets someone's attention when a sheriff bangs down their door. FIX the problem - stop posting about it.
 
Well he contacted me and we discussed everything briefly. I told him to put mine on the back burner and take care of some of you crybabies first but he flatly refused saying he was trying to keep them in order with the excption being some are easier to finish than others. I don't want to anger the man by putting his personal business out there but on top of everything else he just recently found out his mother has cancer. That combined with his grandmothers recent heart attack is a lot on ANYBODYS plate, hes had a horrible run of bad family news of late. I agree with sde and snapshot9 give the man a chance. EVERYONES CUES ARE COMING, he's doing nothing currently but working on past due orders. Some of you should really be ashamed of yourself. He's putting up pictures of delivered cues (last week) and more will come this week. There are a lot of happy KV customers on here that just don't want to get involved in these basher threads.
Rocket if I was him you for sure wouldn't get a refund just for the way you've tried to ruin his business. Another thing I found interesting was he told me the majority of the repeated bashers don't even have a cue order. Like poolplayer2093, bpg24, manwon. These little AZ hater groups are rediculous and tiring.
I could keep on but I've said enough. Kv if you read this forgive me but I just really had to speak my mind.
Rep to SDE, Snapshot9, Roadkill, and Jam.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
By the way, my little picture post was entirely in-jest. I'm not supporting KV or against the guy. It's prob fair to say I'm tired of the 2000 threads about the guy (which, from what i gather, are justified).

HOWEVER, posting threads won't get your cue done faster. If you wish in one hand and shit in the other--- one hand will fill-up a lot quicker.

I'd call for a refund, if I didn't get a response, I'd pay $50 and call a district magistrate to serve him papers. That usually gets someone's attention when a sheriff bangs down their door. FIX the problem - stop posting about it.
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exactly he's got some people on here stuck enough cash that they should be willing to do something about it. i think the major problem is that is' decent cash but when you look at it. if yuo're from out of state and have a job, family, bills and such it's really not worth your time to go out of town to settle up on 400-1k dollars. but someone on here must be willing to do it ya know. without action this is all talk

if you keep asking for a refund and all he says is no than you either do something about it or accept no as the acceptable responce
 
Roadkill said:
There are so many off-with-Kevin-Varney's-head threads on AZ lately, they might as well create a sub-forum here called Bash KV. Honestly, the fact that the thrashing has been allowed to continue is amazing.
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Well, this is the only way to find out if he has contacted anyone as he promised. If he has we can start another thread to PRAISE him for his valiant communication efforts.

What's wrong with using this forum?
 
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