10 Footer's At The Classic Pockets don't take much more than center pocket

I was involved in designing these tables, trust me...they're Procut 4 1/2" corner pockets. Pocket openings are measured between the points of the pockets...not deeper than that. If you place the balls between the points of the pocket opening and draw a line straight through the middle of the balls between the points from one side to the other...and the balls fit half way in, half way out...and 2 balls have a total width of 4 1/2" when added together...then the pocket opening is 4 1/2". I don't have to guess, I work on pool tables for a living....and was at the factory when these tables were being built...so they're not 4 1/4" or any other size:grin:


4-31/64...sorry the stream is still down hehe..

Your still the man G
 
They play GOOOOOOD! It's a whole new ball game on these tables. Let the best man win!

P.S. Phil Burford looked the best on day one! Get ready for Earl and Shane tonight. I'd better be on my toes! :wink:
 
Wrong, the balls are 2 1/4" each, that equals 4 1/2" wide at the points of the pocket...not 4 1/4":rolleyes:

For the purpose of not having this subject point beat to death like other subjects, I edited the post to 4 1/2 pockets. I am fully aware that the ball size is 2 1/4. I had mentioned this to JR Calvert when he first said the pockets measured 4 1/4.. If you look at the pic, the center of each sphere isnt at the half way point where the point of the jaw touches the ball... So the pocket size is less than 4 1/2 No biggie.....
 
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P.S. Phil Burford looked the best on day one! Get ready for Earl and Shane tonight. I'd better be on my toes! :wink:

Jay, do wahtever is humanely possible to get us Dennis O vs Phil Burford on the stream table for their round 2 match, please!!!
 
Everybody is wrong about the pocket sizes. These pockets are estimated to be 4 7/16". They are definitely slightly smaller than standard Pro Cut. I measured every pocket on all four tables after I leveled them. We made two tight tables for the action room and they are 4 1/8". Our manufacturing engineer has created a program for our CNC's for this. Glen Hancock extended the rails on a 9' Pro Am for Eric Peterson to 4 1/8" and the top from this table was used by TAR for several months. Everyone liked this table so much that we decided add it to our library of available designs.

The Real King Cobra had some input on the design of these tables, but it was a group effort at Diamond in total. I hope that this info clears up this thread a little.
 
Everybody is wrong about the pocket sizes. These pockets are estimated to be 4 7/16". They are definitely slightly smaller than standard Pro Cut. I measured every pocket on all four tables after I leveled them. We made two tight tables for the action room and they are 4 1/8". Our manufacturing engineer has created a program for our CNC's for this. Glen Hancock extended the rails on a 9' Pro Am for Eric Peterson to 4 1/8" and the top from this table was used by TAR for several months. Everyone liked this table so much that we decided add it to our library of available designs.

The Real King Cobra had some input on the design of these tables, but it was a group effort at Diamond in total. I hope that this info clears up this thread a little.

Yes it does...thank you. Johnnyt
 
Everybody is wrong about the pocket sizes. These pockets are estimated to be 4 7/16". They are definitely slightly smaller than standard Pro Cut. I measured every pocket on all four tables after I leveled them. We made two tight tables for the action room and they are 4 1/8". Our manufacturing engineer has created a program for our CNC's for this. Glen Hancock extended the rails on a 9' Pro Am for Eric Peterson to 4 1/8" and the top from this table was used by TAR for several months. Everyone liked this table so much that we decided add it to our library of available designs.

The Real King Cobra had some input on the design of these tables, but it was a group effort at Diamond in total. I hope that this info clears up this thread a little.

Thank you Paul for clearing that up, I didn't think Diamond had produced any 4 1/4" corner pocket openings as of yet, though I was aware of the 4 1/8"s corners. And you ARE 100% correct when you say that we all at Diamond had a joint effort in the design of these monster playing 5'x10's and I'm very proud to say I was a part of the history of these tables. That is what makes Diamond's the top pick of today's tables....because Diamond DOES care about their tables, and will stop at nothing to make them the best playing tables on this planet:grin:

Glen
 
No one wants to see this match over Earl v SVB.

Sheesh

Earl vs SVB is in ROUND 1!!!

Dennis vs Phil is a ROUND 2 MATCH!!!

The two matches are not in the same round, the Dennis vs Phil match is almost for sure going to be AFTER the Earl vs SVB match, as round 2 matches are normally AFTER round 1.
 
Earl vs SVB is in ROUND 1!!!

Dennis vs Phil is a ROUND 2 MATCH!!!

Here Hungarian, this might help to look at this, thanks to "Hungarian" in the Action Room for posting this pic of the draw.

As one can see Dennis and Phil each played Brandon and Max in their 1st round matches, which they both won.

Earl and SVB need to play their first round match still along with the other 3 matches that will go on at the same time IN THE FIRST ROUND.

Dennis vs Phil will not conflict with Earl vs Shane.
 

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Sheesh

Earl vs SVB is in ROUND 1!!!

Dennis vs Phil is a ROUND 2 MATCH!!!

The two matches are not in the same round, the Dennis vs Phil match is almost for sure going to be AFTER the Earl vs SVB match, as round 2 matches are normally AFTER round 1.

My bad buddy.. Some reason I just go on the defensive when I see your posts. I'll try to recalibrate myself..
 
Sheesh

Earl vs SVB is in ROUND 1!!!

Dennis vs Phil is a ROUND 2 MATCH!!!

The two matches are not in the same round, the Dennis vs Phil match is almost for sure going to be AFTER the Earl vs SVB match, as round 2 matches are normally AFTER round 1.

True. On Monday, Jay Helfert said the Round 1 matches are Tuesday and Wednesday, the Round 2 matches are Thursday, and the Round 3 and Round 4 matches (2 semi-finals and the final) are Friday.
 
I don't know about the rest of you but I wish they would leave the camera on the wide angle that shows all four tables. I personally don't like it when they keep switching. Plus, the close up view imo is not that important to see the action.

Wider is better.

What do the rest of you think?
 
I don't know about the rest of you but I wish they would leave the camera on the wide angle that shows all four tables. I personally don't like it when they keep switching. Plus, the close up view imo is not that important to see the action.

Wider is better.

What do the rest of you think?

I think closer is better. Pool is best watched up-close so you can see the layout, the angles, whether a particular ball passes another, how the CB is being hit, etc. I'd much rather watch one match closely than bits of several at the same time from a greater distance.
 
I think closer is better. Pool is best watched up-close so you can see the layout, the angles, whether a particular ball passes another, how the CB is being hit, etc. I'd much rather watch one match closely than bits of several at the same time from a greater distance.

I'd rather see a wider view. But that's ok. Different strokes...cheers.
 
The semis and finals on Friday will be played in the Accu-Stats arena (yes they are moving a 10' table in there). It will be the only matches played in there that day. This is one show I would highly recommend. You will see some great pool by some great players. accu-stats.com

Sneak peek to 2013 Derby City Ten Ball. 16 players, $2,000 entry fee, $20,000 Added! First prize $24,000! :)
 
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