Two Different Shots, Yet the Same

BeiberLvr

BeiberLvr

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Practicing these shots yesterday, and realized something pretty cool.

CB A pockets the 1 ball in the upper left corner.

CB B pockets the 2 ball in the same pocket.

I was able to make both shots with CTE/OBC and just dropping down into CCB.

Not sure what this proves or disproves, if anything, just thought it was neat.

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which "Center to Edge" you're matching up, is it the left edge or the right edge

BeiberLvr said:
Practicing these shots yesterday, and realized something pretty cool.

CB A pockets the 1 ball in the upper left corner.

CB B pockets the 2 ball in the same pocket.

I was able to make both shots with CTE/OBC and just dropping down into CCB.

Not sure what this proves or disproves, if anything, just thought it was neat.

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Are you connecting the Center to the Edge above the shot?

What I do is just line them up like it was a straight in shot and drop down to just slightly inside of center and extend my tip towards the center OB. I still don't understand the Center to Edge alignment on this shot, I use Center to Center , then move to Center to Edge when it's past a "half ball hit".

Can you tell me which "Center to Edge" you're matching up, is it the left edge or the right edge on each example?
 
Visuals may be the same although that 2 ball is real close to a B visual.

Gerry

BeiberLvr said:
Practicing these shots yesterday, and realized something pretty cool.

CB A pockets the 1 ball in the upper left corner.

CB B pockets the 2 ball in the same pocket.

I was able to make both shots with CTE/OBC and just dropping down into CCB.

Not sure what this proves or disproves, if anything, just thought it was neat.

e_Ui7VXPKHhcG1O2hG26.png
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BeiberLvr said:
Practicing these shots yesterday, and realized something pretty cool.

CB A pockets the 1 ball in the upper left corner.

CB B pockets the 2 ball in the same pocket.

I was able to make both shots with CTE/OBC and just dropping down into CCB.

Not sure what this proves or disproves, if anything, just thought it was neat.

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Just curious not to argue ,you made both balls in the same pocket lining up the same on the object ball?Everything was the same?(cb)
 
For me 1st one is a CTEL A left pivot. Second shot is CTEL A right pivot. Assuming both shots are going to the same hole in upper right.

[edit] both shots are CTEL A right pivot. 1st one is borderline, needs to be setup exact.
 
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leafs07 said:
This is what Gerry shows in this video and you are both using the exact same pro1 alignments :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gmz3XSiw_s

Now, set up the 1 ball and A cue ball again and run through all the cte/pro1 alignments, but do them correctly! Come back here and tell me how many balls you make. try this :)
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What Jerry showed was nothing like the original post here.Different shots ,different distances.I think what he showed was rite except for the very last shot.But I probably did it wrong.It happens.:)
 
Not going to get into a back and forth with you again - the visuals were stated already - I know where this is going and this is my last response to you on this subject.

If you don't believe the system don't use it. Or buy the DVD as all is explained in there.

Gerry
 
Hi Mohrt,

Both go with C visual and right sweep to the pocket on the top left of the table as it is oriented. So the balls are cut to the right.


mohrt said:
For me 1st one is a CTEL A left pivot. Second shot is CTEL A right pivot. Assuming both shots are going to the same hole in upper right.
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All 4 of the shots I showed were correct. Yes - you likely did it wrong.

8pack said:
What Jerry showed was nothing like the original post here.Different shots ,different distances.I think what he showed was rite except for the very last shot.But I probably did it wrong.It happens.:)
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Gerry Williams said:
Hi Mohrt,

Both go with C visual and right sweep to the pocket on the top left of the table as it is oriented. So the balls are cut to the right.
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Yeah the first one is right pivot. It is borderline, I probably didn't get the balls setup perfect on my first test.
 
Gerry Williams said:
All 4 of the shots I showed were correct. Yes - you likely did it wrong.
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Thats what I said.:smile: There's nothing wrong with a little bickering Gerry so I hope you don't get heated over my comments.
I have a problem with the op stating he made a shot that is exactly the same except the angle.Maybe he just didnt explain rite but it is by far the same shot.:wink:
Stan has come up with a great system but I bet sometimes he's scratching his head by some of the things said on here.
 
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leafs07 said:
8pack, I think our exchange the other day showed at what level you are at in cte/pro1 understanding. Dont push uninformed opinions as fact, anything you bring up has been debated in the past :thumbup: I also try and answer any question tossed my way, unlike someone I know lol ;)

Im just having fun too :D:D
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Dont mistake my writing skills with my knowledge of the game and with pivoting and pro1.I understand things very well.(you have nothing on me)
Are my questions not valid??You guys do more harm than guys like myself.(look no further than the op):confused:

Hopfully for your guys sakes when Stans new dvd comes out it will answer some things for me.That way we mite get along a little better.:smile:

I have spoke with Hal,Ron and do own Stans dvd, my opinion is nothing rite.Its funny how sometimes you ask a question and you get a answer in away that is more confusing,happens a lot on this subject.

Anthony

Also dont take all the back and forth to personal,we're all just trying to up are knowledge of the game.
 
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If you understand Pro One so well I don't know why you would need to ask about the visuals for the shots diagrammed - they are pretty basic as far as the system goes.

As far as the original post goes, I see nothing wrong with it - and as for the bickering, if that is your thing go for it man - but a complete waste of time IMO.





8pack said:
Dont mistake my writing skills with my knowledge of the game and with pivoting and pro1.I understand things very well.(you have nothing on me)
Are my questions not valid??You guys do more harm than guys like myself.(look no further than the op):confused:

Hopfully for your guys sakes when Stans new dvd comes out it will answer some things for me.That way we mite get along a little better.:smile:

I have spoke with Hal,Ron and do own Stans dvd, my opinion is nothing rite.Its funny how sometimes you ask a question and you get a answer in away that is more confusing,happens a lot on this subject.

Anthony
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The shots represented by the OP underline the concept that a single visual/sweep covers a wide range of shots (multiple angles.) This is what the guys with pencils and protractors get wrong, the solutions do not work on 2d diagrams. The system is based on visuals, which map to shot lines that connect to the pockets.

It will be interesting to see what DVD 2 brings. FYI the system isn't changing, just new details and insight is what I anticipate. A couple more years of knowledge behind the subject.
 
Gerry Williams said:
If you understand Pro One so well I don't know why you would need to ask about the visuals for the shots diagrammed - they are pretty basic as far as the system goes.

As far as the original post goes, I see nothing wrong with it - and as for the bickering, if that is your thing go for it man - but a complete waste of time IMO.
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A shot that is a 3/4 ball hit and one that is just a hair past a 1/2 ball.
They are set up exactly the same.To say the shot is the same process is wrong .Did Stan not say it was a center pocket system??
Would be nice if Stan would chime in here .The op is wrong.
It is not the same.:)
Waste of time??Dont be so positive on what you know.

Anthony
 
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Would you be willing to bet money on what you are stating?

8pack said:
A shot that is a 3/4 ball hit and one that is just a hair past a 1/2 ball.
They are set up exactly the same.To say the shot is the same process is wrong .Did Stan not say it was a center ball system??
Would be nice if Stan would chime in here .The op is wrong.
It is not the same.:)
Waste of time??Dont be so positive on what you know.

Anthony
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