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Aside from the confusing post,
there are a few issues with the rules.
Driving a ball off the table, cueball or object ball should be a foul not "play continues as normal".
Also a push shot can still happen if the cue is elevated, just this rule ""Push" Shots: Push shots are illegal. If the cue ball is touching an object ball, the cue must strike the cue ball at an elevated angle of 45 degrees (or greater) angle or a foul may be called." does not avoid a bad hit. The way this is worded, seems like just elevating the cue will avoid the foul, which it won't. Plus you can easily avoid a push shot while shooting with an even cue away from the straight on angle. That's really the only way to avoid a push happening, and if the balls ARE frozen (not just close), it's legal to hit though the cueball with a single and normal stroke, you just can't hold the cue to ball contact for longer than the time it normally strikes the ball.
This is also a bit of an outdated and bar type rule "If the shooter scratches while shooting the 8-ball (whether or not the 8-ball is pocketed) the shooter loses the rack." All you need to do to win here is play a safety when the other guy is on the 8 ball. Hook him, he fails to kick the 8, and it's a loss. Dumb rule. Unless by scratch you really mean "the cueball is pocketed" and not the general meaning of "scratch" which can just mean a "foul". I've heard the term scratch used a LOT when you just fail to hit the ball. The rule needs to be made clear that a scratch is when the cueball is pocketed, not just any foul.
This is also pretty silly: "If a shooter thinks the shot/hit they are about to make might be questioned after the shot by an opponent, they must ask someone from the opposing team (and optionally from their team as well) to watch the shot/hit" Who the hell would want the opposing team to be responsible call a foul on you? May as well ask a bank robber to make sure the vault is locked OK for the night. Especially if the players don't really know how to watch for a foul. The rule needs to be than a neutral party that actually is knowledgeable enough to know what a foul is needs to watch the hit (say the league operator or eve someone in the room not in the league).
there are a few issues with the rules.
Driving a ball off the table, cueball or object ball should be a foul not "play continues as normal".
Also a push shot can still happen if the cue is elevated, just this rule ""Push" Shots: Push shots are illegal. If the cue ball is touching an object ball, the cue must strike the cue ball at an elevated angle of 45 degrees (or greater) angle or a foul may be called." does not avoid a bad hit. The way this is worded, seems like just elevating the cue will avoid the foul, which it won't. Plus you can easily avoid a push shot while shooting with an even cue away from the straight on angle. That's really the only way to avoid a push happening, and if the balls ARE frozen (not just close), it's legal to hit though the cueball with a single and normal stroke, you just can't hold the cue to ball contact for longer than the time it normally strikes the ball.
This is also a bit of an outdated and bar type rule "If the shooter scratches while shooting the 8-ball (whether or not the 8-ball is pocketed) the shooter loses the rack." All you need to do to win here is play a safety when the other guy is on the 8 ball. Hook him, he fails to kick the 8, and it's a loss. Dumb rule. Unless by scratch you really mean "the cueball is pocketed" and not the general meaning of "scratch" which can just mean a "foul". I've heard the term scratch used a LOT when you just fail to hit the ball. The rule needs to be made clear that a scratch is when the cueball is pocketed, not just any foul.
This is also pretty silly: "If a shooter thinks the shot/hit they are about to make might be questioned after the shot by an opponent, they must ask someone from the opposing team (and optionally from their team as well) to watch the shot/hit" Who the hell would want the opposing team to be responsible call a foul on you? May as well ask a bank robber to make sure the vault is locked OK for the night. Especially if the players don't really know how to watch for a foul. The rule needs to be than a neutral party that actually is knowledgeable enough to know what a foul is needs to watch the hit (say the league operator or eve someone in the room not in the league).
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A scratch is something entirely different than a foul. A non-hit is a foul, not a scratch. A scratch is when the cueball is pocketed or hit off the table. Missing the 8-ball is not loss of game. Scratching on the 8 is.
The rest of your reply, I agree with.
The technical term of a "scratch" is ball went in the pocket. A lot of people say "scratch" when you don't hit the correct ball also. So the rule needs to be clear. A scratch is also a foul, but a foul does not need to be a scratch, therefore they need to specify what type of foul a scratch is.
A scratch is a foul, for your league purposes they may not count it as a foul though.
Yes, a scratch is a foul. A foul, however, is not necessarily a scratch. The rule states 'scratch', specifically, not foul, is a loss of game.
As hang-the-9 pointed out, some people use "scratch" and "foul" interchangeably. If the rules do not explicitly define the terms, you're going to have confusion.
For the record, I didn't bother looking at the link. Another league system with another set of rules doesn't seem to be what we (the pool community) need.
They just need to add a few more days to the week so the people that play in APA, USAPL, BCAPL, TAP, NAPA and that new Mike Sigel thing, along with maybe Americal Rotation will have time to play in this one also. With a bit of time put aside for any local in-house leagues.
Not to mention that those that play in those leagues also like to play on different nights in different divisions and on different teams LOL I figure a 10 day week should cover things. An extra work day and expend the weekend by 2 days. We don't want to mess with Fridays, but I figure we can sneak in a day between Tue and Wed.
"Scratching: If a player scratches (pockets the cue ball) . . . "
The clarify in one section, but not another. Even if not in the best way, they did clarify what a scratch is and the definition would carry on through the rest of the rules.
Just another case of some guy that knows very little about how balls actually react and why is making rules on B.S. myths. First thing every new league does is change the rules. And they wonder why pool can't get anywhere.
You forgot to add a couple days for weekly local tournaments!
WELL GOD DAMN IT! This throws the whole new week idea back to the drawing board. We may need to have some league players skip a week to play in the tournaments. I don't think we can get the planet to adapt a 11 or 12 day week. 10 may be doable, but 11.... that's tough.
WAIT! What if we just add 3 more hours to the each day of the 10 day week??? That would be almost perfect!
Who wants to start lobbying the Senate to push a bill though on this? We probably need JAM to write up the proposal and need to come up with a new name for 3 days. Maybe Saturday Sunday FUNday ALMOWORday(Almost Work Day) Monday STILWRKday (still work day) Wednesday...
We can move lunch closer to breakfeast, then move dinner down to abut 5 and rename it linner (lunch+dinner), extend dinner to 12 which will give 5-12 time for pool, then use the 3 extra hours to put in between 12 and 1 for family time and TV primetime. Perfect! You even get 4 meals in for those buffet types that love food.
I just solved all of the world's issues. More time for food, family, pool AND a 4 day weekend.
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Genius!
I'm in... so long as we don't have to change the clocks for Daylight Savings Time. Listening to people ***** twice a year about changing clocks drives me nuts.
I'm in... so long as we don't have to change the clocks for Daylight Savings Time. Listening to people ***** twice a year about changing clocks drives me nuts.
Yep, let's add that into the bill, F the farmers and their more daylight to work the fields.
Also with all of these fat people we'll be making with the 4 meal day, the Earth's rotation and orbit may get messed up enough from the extra weight that we may even be able to eliminate leap year, thus fixing a major issue for all those leap year babies that only have 1/4 the birthdays of the rest of us. Who would have thought a 10 day week with 27 hr days would have so many benefits?
The only drawback I see is that all those "the world will end today" people will have to start recalculating their predictions using the new calendar, but that's probably OK.
I don't need sunlight to drive my car, why should farmers need sunlight to drive their tractors?
(Phillies just scored their first run of the season... hooray for baseball!)
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Great! Now that we have your attention, there are a lot of captains and co-captains, that work tirelessly running leagues for other people with minimum rewards. Many are searching for their chance at running their own league with greater rewards. So, here's a great opportunity for them to advance to the next level as a league operator. They have next "as a league operator" for the next phase in their billiard careers.
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Great! Now that we have your attention, there are a lot of captains and co-captains, that work tirelessly running leagues for other people with minimum rewards. Many are searching for their chance at running their own league with greater rewards. So, here's a great opportunity for them to advance to the next level as a league operator. They have next "as a league operator" for the next phase in their billiard careers.
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Thanks for your insight. Some rules are worded in a different manner as not to be the same as another league. Those points are noted and will be addressed. Thanks again
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Lol! Yes there are many leagues. However, there are Thousands of sports bars and pool halls across the nation without league play due to exclusive rights from other leagues. With that said, more leagues are in the works for all the shooters that shoot in places without a league of any kind. Millions of shooters are not in a league, so why not find your niche and serve them?