Question about McDermott cues with sharp points and veneers. Are they more desirable?

justinb386 said:
I am curious about McDermott cues that have sharp points and veneers.

Is this something you see very often on McDermott cues?

If you see a sharp pointed Mcdermott (with veneers for example), does that meant that it is an older vintage Mcdermott, or could it have possibly been custom ordered to have sharp points and veneers?

In my experience, they have not had really sharp points in them (most of the ones that I have seen, other then the old C and D series from the 80's).

Is this something that you can ask McDermott to do if custom ordering a McDermott?

Will they make the points and veneers very sharp (on a custom order)?

I am just curious if a sharp pointed Mcdermott (with sharp points and veneers) makes it more valuable and desirable?

Thanks for any thoughts or info about this.
Click to expand...

Go to mcdermotts retired cue page, see what they have made. Go to the current line and take a look at what kind of cues they are making with points and veneers.

Mcdermott cues will make you a custom cue however you want it done, you just have to have the $$$$ (Check out the custom cue page)

Is the cue going to be Valuable: To you it will be.

Is the cue going to be desirable: Only if you desire it.
 
Mcdermott cues will make you a custom cue however you want it done, you just have to have the $$$$

Sadly you are mistaken. They will not do sharp points. With or without veneers.
 
Do you really believe this? LMAO Tooler is pulling your leg. Of course, you're just ask for abuse with the stupid questions you ask. :rolleyes: There hasn't been a straight answer, because there is no answer...points are points, sharp or round...that's how they come, and they cannot be changed.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

justinb386 said:
That is very interesting. I did not know that rounded points could be sharpened. I bet that is is very expensive to have done (I imagine), with the cost of sharpening the points, plus a refinish.
Click to expand...
 
Scott Lee said:
Do you really believe this? LMAO Tooler is pulling your leg. Of course, you're just ask for abuse with the stupid questions you ask. :rolleyes: There hasn't been a straight answer, because there is no answer...points are points, sharp or round...that's how they come, and they cannot be changed.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Click to expand...

Are you positive that rounded points can't possibly be sharpened? You are just a player and and instructor, right? Or are you also an experts on what can and can't be done with points on a pool cue? I do remember reading somewhere on here that a cue maker (I forget who) always sharpens the rounded points after he does them with a CNC machine.
 
alphadog said:
Mcdermott cues will make you a custom cue however you want it done, you just have to have the $$$$

Sadly you are mistaken. They will not do sharp points. With or without veneers.
Click to expand...

That might be true, but I have heard that they do have old stock from the D series (or D series forearms that they have, that they sometimes use on custom orders or custom cues).
 
It all depends on the number of points....is it six points or four points....If you find eight and all eight are sharp.....now we are talking real value
 
Buzzard II said:
Caff, do you mean instead of a multi question troll, it's a vast left wing conspiracy?
Click to expand...
It was meant more as a joke, Im saying Justin's ongoing behavior seems odd enough I wouldn't be shocked if we at some point find out he was doing research for a PhD.

Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
 
Sharp/cnc points

The OP'S question is a very legitimate one. There are a few kinds of points commonly encountered. First types were Butterfly and full splice types like those found in house cues etc. Then there are V bottom points which is commonly used for real and pointy points. Then lastly there are cnc flat bottom points.
Full splice points are the most difficult especially with veneers.
Veneers are always difficult because they have so many glue lines and the miter up the middle at the point needs to be tight.
V bottom points are most common as each point can be installed individually and perfectly. Another difficult thing about sharp points is run out. If anything is off center about the cues final glue up, you will see the points will vary in length by final turn dimension.
CNC flat bottom points are put in with a machine usually after final glue up but a turn or two before final dimension. These are easiest. No craftsmanship needed. You can always identify these because not only are they perfect, but the radius found at the end of the point indicates the diameter of the cutter used to put them in. So in the end with the cnc point, cuemaker are trading speed and ease of construction for effort and craftsmanship. If you can afford such equipment, you don't need the skill and patience required to make real points.
So with all the hype about this custom cuemaker and that, (and there are plenty guys turning out cues in their garages these days, and some damn fine ones too!) It seems to me that cool computer inlaid cues are the rage and true handcrafted designs are not even noticed.
I personally look for real points and Veneers only because I have enough experience to know how much hands on effort it takes to make them.
I was in the factory a week ago. Mcdermott does not make anything but cnc points. They have no D series parts left.
Hope this helps sir.
 
Since you have so much "experience" and seem to be one of the 'sharp point' cue snobs, poo-poohing anything that isn't a shart point...know this. Whether a cue is cnc, pantagraph, or whatever, the cue still has to be put together by hand. The skills of the cuemaker are where the line is drawn...not whether points are cnc or sharp.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

MikieG said:
It seems to me that cool computer inlaid cues are the rage and true handcrafted designs are not even noticed.
I personally look for real points and Veneers only because I have enough experience to know how much hands on effort it takes to make them.
Click to expand...
 
I didn't say they couldn't "possibly" be "sharpened". I said it doesn't happen (changing round to sharp). Prove me wrong by posting the name one a single cuemaker who does this. While I may not be a cue "expert", I have owned several dozen different cuemaker's cues over the past 45 years, and come to be friends with many different cuemakers around the country.

People make fun of you because for someone who has allegedly been around pool for more than 20 years, you still have no clue, and continually start threads that ask outrageous questions.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

justinb386 said:
Are you positive that rounded points can't possibly be sharpened? You are just a player and and instructor, right? Or are you also an experts on what can and can't be done with points on a pool cue? I do remember reading somewhere on here that a cue maker (I forget who) always sharpens the rounded points after he does them with a CNC machine.
Click to expand...
 
Scott Lee

Firstly, how did you derive snob from my post? I simply responded with an experienced and educated response to the OP'S question.
Yes, cues are glued up by hands. What skill is required to apply glue and plug parts together? Maybe care taken to index ring checks etc. But that's it. $12 an hour employee. Far from a cue maker.
You refer to the line being drawn with skills and yet you seem to think that cnc is equal in skill to hand made points? This is where experience (as in I have made many a cue with real points, how many cues you made with cnc points?) is obvious.
I'd love to hear how you "sharpen" points. I am up for learning new things.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top