Don Montalvo a.k.a PoolMouse purposely sharks me in tournament
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Fragged said:
You are defenitly wrong on that one buddy..I am also an ex cop. An if you dont learn to channel you anger it can get you killed. I have been in several incidents that i have been hot as a damn fire cracker , and could have lost my cool, but you are taught at the academy how to channel anger and even how to dissapate adrenalin when you get an adrenalin dump. So you can channel anger..hell in the job i do know which is working with childern with Autism..i have been hit square in the face with a handful of poop. BUDDY i was a mad as a black man my size can be..but knowing how to channel my anger allowed me to keep my cool and do my job. It might just be that you dont know how..but it aint got nothing to do with OPRAH
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quitecoolguy said:You are defenitly wrong on that one buddy..I am also an ex cop. An if you dont learn to channel you anger it can get you killed. I have been in several incidents that i have been hot as a damn fire cracker , and could have lost my cool, but you are taught at the academy how to channel anger and even how to dissapate adrenalin when you get an adrenalin dump. So you can channel anger..hell in the job i do know which is working with childern with Autism..i have been hit square in the face with a handful of poop. BUDDY i was a mad as a black man my size can be..but knowing how to channel my anger allowed me to keep my cool and do my job. It might just be that you dont know how..but it aint got nothing to do with OPRAH
That's very interesting! How does one dissipate adrenalin?
Flex
Neil said:If he keeps stanking in front of you, some have been known to 'accidentaly' miscue and send the cueball flying at their head. (but, of course, I would never recommend that)
If he's stanking in front of me I'm tellin him to get his funky ass outside to fart.
quitecoolguy said:You are defenitly wrong on that one buddy..I am also an ex cop. An if you dont learn to channel you anger it can get you killed. I have been in several incidents that i have been hot as a damn fire cracker , and could have lost my cool, but you are taught at the academy how to channel anger and even how to dissapate adrenalin when you get an adrenalin dump. So you can channel anger..hell in the job i do know which is working with childern with Autism..i have been hit square in the face with a handful of poop. BUDDY i was a mad as a black man my size can be..but knowing how to channel my anger allowed me to keep my cool and do my job. It might just be that you dont know how..but it aint got nothing to do with OPRAH
HUH? Cops channel anger and dissipate adrenalin? Dont get me started. Even with the cameras rolling and their job on the line, they cant control themselves. Great example.
ace911 said:
Mike, I'm sorry you're feeling so down.
If you're trying to "toughen up", ditch the iPod. Sound isn't the only form of distraction. In your quest to acoustically buffer yourself, you're making yourself more sensitive to your visual surroundings.
I'm sure you've been told a million and seven times, you shoot way too slow. Most of us believe you do so to disrupt your opponent's rhythm. It's quite an effective way to shark your opponent while seeming innocent.
I'm disappointed that you decided to shine the light away from your opponent who quite simply outplayed you. It's ironic that, unlike you, she doesn't spend an enormous amount of time practicing. Sometimes too much practice isn't such a good thing. How many hours do you spend practicing per week? 40? 50? 60?
You seem annoyed that spectators cheered your opponent on. I wasn't the first to applaud her, but as soon as one or two people started, it was very difficult to not join in. Something tells me you're annoyed at having lost to someone you usually beat handily, but who simply played better than you.
I think you should take a step back from the table. Maybe take some time off and find yourself before you spiral further downward. It's going to be interesting observing you from now on, especially after reading your post. Now that you've exposed a bit more about yourself than you probably realized.
Poolmouse
poolmouse said:
Are you kidding me? Practice too much. How do you get better? Watch tv,read books? No, you practice drills and make them become an everday part of your game. You also learn to block out distractions. However, players who are not involved in a game should be respectful to BOTH opponents. Unfortunately some players feel they need to shark you to win. Read the book by the Monk called The Game Within. It deals with sharking and how to recognize it an how to beat it.
I can't say I approve of this thread. Calling out a poster who, within his rights, chooses to post anonymously over such a trivilaity is way out of line.
I know Poolmouse well and he's a good guy, a good player, and he knows the etiquette of the poolroom. If he cheered on your opponent, even boisterously, that's just something you need to learn to deal with. As others have noted, you had the option to speak to the tournament director if you felt sharked, and you did not do so.
As for your wearing the earphones, I can say with complete certainty that I would have been rooting for your opponent, too. They can do as they please while warming up, but I consider it an insult when my opponent insists on playing with earphones. Interactions with my opponent, even if not very numerous and even if only between racks, is part of the joy of playing pool. Block out your opponent with earphones, and the game becomes less enjoyable, which perhaps, in part, explains your very bitter post.
I think Poolmouse is right in suggesting that you should lose the earphones. Learn to enjoy opponent's company more and you will be more relaxed when you play, which might just translate into better play.
Anyway, better luck in your next tournament.
I know Poolmouse well and he's a good guy, a good player, and he knows the etiquette of the poolroom. If he cheered on your opponent, even boisterously, that's just something you need to learn to deal with. As others have noted, you had the option to speak to the tournament director if you felt sharked, and you did not do so.
As for your wearing the earphones, I can say with complete certainty that I would have been rooting for your opponent, too. They can do as they please while warming up, but I consider it an insult when my opponent insists on playing with earphones. Interactions with my opponent, even if not very numerous and even if only between racks, is part of the joy of playing pool. Block out your opponent with earphones, and the game becomes less enjoyable, which perhaps, in part, explains your very bitter post.
I think Poolmouse is right in suggesting that you should lose the earphones. Learn to enjoy opponent's company more and you will be more relaxed when you play, which might just translate into better play.
Anyway, better luck in your next tournament.
Yeah its a good idea to lose the earphones.I knew a kid who was playing a match,he was on 2 and was told but didnt hear it,he was 3 fouled and took his head phones off and started to complain that it was bs but hey you gotta be on your game and he was warned,the hell with headphones,i cant even stand the guys who wear them playing poker.sjm said:
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After this thread those guys at the pool hall that hear about this thread(oh they will......) are going to have a field day ****ing with the original thread starter.
Sorry guys, I really did not wish for this thread to continue on like it did, I wanted to vent a little and ask for suggestions for the future.
Don right now is trying to turn the situation around and save face. The guy is not just cheering for my opponent loudly, I don't really care about that. He placed himself in front of my table for the sole intent of sharking me. He's saying bad things about my game, moving around, and fidgeting every time I am shooting.
Now keep in mind, this is the same person who is extremely irritated when people talk around his table, I have seen him quit a game with someone because people are talking too loudly around him. I have seen him refuse to start a game until he asked a certain person to move out of a certain chair.
I know it's not right to mention a person's name when they choose to remain anonymous, but you guys should check out this post: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=76720
I am playing the U.S. Open and he is talking trash about me online about how I'm putting everyone to sleep. Why? I don't know why he doesn't like me? I know I take my time when I play, I'm trying to give myself the best opportunity to win. I'm not trying to play like Luc Salvas I can't do it, I'll give up too many opportunities and lose. Meanwhile Don's hero is Lou Butera, so he doesn't like the way I play? DUH!!
I know he was hopping for me to do bad in the U.S. Open, I did alright, I cashed, I'm 23 and I'm an aspiring player still working on my game. So how do you like it now?
Tony Robles is one of the nicest people in pool, yet Don decides to even put Robles down. After Robles failed to cash in a tournament, Don tells him basically that this is what happens when you decide to be a pool player. He told him he'll be broke and can't even afford to pay for his son's college education, and that his son will probably have to drive a cab to pay for his city college tuition. This gives you an idea of what type of person he is.
I hope this is the last post I will have to make, I really did not want this thread to last any longer. Please guys just let it rest.
Don right now is trying to turn the situation around and save face. The guy is not just cheering for my opponent loudly, I don't really care about that. He placed himself in front of my table for the sole intent of sharking me. He's saying bad things about my game, moving around, and fidgeting every time I am shooting.
Now keep in mind, this is the same person who is extremely irritated when people talk around his table, I have seen him quit a game with someone because people are talking too loudly around him. I have seen him refuse to start a game until he asked a certain person to move out of a certain chair.
I know it's not right to mention a person's name when they choose to remain anonymous, but you guys should check out this post: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=76720
I am playing the U.S. Open and he is talking trash about me online about how I'm putting everyone to sleep. Why? I don't know why he doesn't like me? I know I take my time when I play, I'm trying to give myself the best opportunity to win. I'm not trying to play like Luc Salvas I can't do it, I'll give up too many opportunities and lose. Meanwhile Don's hero is Lou Butera, so he doesn't like the way I play? DUH!!
I know he was hopping for me to do bad in the U.S. Open, I did alright, I cashed, I'm 23 and I'm an aspiring player still working on my game. So how do you like it now?
Tony Robles is one of the nicest people in pool, yet Don decides to even put Robles down. After Robles failed to cash in a tournament, Don tells him basically that this is what happens when you decide to be a pool player. He told him he'll be broke and can't even afford to pay for his son's college education, and that his son will probably have to drive a cab to pay for his city college tuition. This gives you an idea of what type of person he is.
I hope this is the last post I will have to make, I really did not want this thread to last any longer. Please guys just let it rest.
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Sharking
This is on the lighter side but I would love to be able to bring my Dogue de bordeaux [french mastiff] into events for this reason.All it would take is one word and I could get the sharker to shut up...
This would be kinda like security,my mastiff and pit could be back up.
This is on the lighter side but I would love to be able to bring my Dogue de bordeaux [french mastiff] into events for this reason.All it would take is one word and I could get the sharker to shut up...
This would be kinda like security,my mastiff and pit could be back up.
sjm said:
Did you know of the original 'Time Bandit' thread when you made this post? If so i have to seriously question your judgment here. Making that post and then cheering boisterously for the opponent makes it pretty clear what his intentions are and that he is jealous of Mike's success or there are other issues that go way beyond anything written here.
Wearing earphones during a match is a passive annoyance not directed at anyone. Poolmouse has been actively attacking Aces and it;s damn low of him. Criticizing practicing? Cmon. I hope you have read his above bitter hateful post and can see the trees now.
I once played a guy so slow that I ate a whole thin-crust pizza with a knife and fork and drank two diet cokes while he ran ~25 balls in 14.1. 
Anyone beat that?
A little slow is fine. If someone is really painfully slow, a ref with a shot clock should be called over to keep things moving at a reasonable (but not quick) pace. Perhaps 30-40 seconds per shot with one 30 second extension per rack?
Anyone beat that? A little slow is fine. If someone is really painfully slow, a ref with a shot clock should be called over to keep things moving at a reasonable (but not quick) pace. Perhaps 30-40 seconds per shot with one 30 second extension per rack?
Dead Money said:
Ya think?
Several people called and emailed me about this thread. It's pretty funny. I remember the tournament director announcing a game a few months back when a top ranked player showed up and had to play Michael Wong..."The world's greatest player vs the world's slowest player!".
He brought the house own with that one.
Poolmouse
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I agree that slow players are a real drag, and have more often than not, 'pharked' my game. There are slow players by nature, that need to be warned to pick up the pace, and there are players that play slow to shark their opponents that need to be warned.poolmouse said:Ya think?
Poolmouse
I don't know the REAL story because I obviously wasn't there, but if there's truth to what the original poster stated about you purposely standing in his line of shot or otherwise visually distracting him purposely, or talking crap loud enough for him to hear with the intentions of screwing with his mind, then you my friend are out of line. When an underdog girl player goes up against a player she's not supposed to beat, it's pretty common for a little crowd to form and get behind her, and that might be all that really happened. Like I say, I wasn't there. But in your posts, I get the idea that although you didn't admit to sharking the guy, you jumped into his speed of play as if that's good reason to shark a guy. Like I say, I may have misunderstood the read, and once again, the original poster may have over reacted and seen sharks when there were no sharks, and if that's the case, then I apologize.
Slow players by habit need to be warned if their play is so slow that it's considered out of line, while at the same time, a players slow playing is no excuse for sharking.
dave
poolmouse said:Ya think?
Several people called and emailed me about this thread. It's pretty funny. I remember the tournament director announcing a game a few months back when a top ranked player showed up and had to play Michael Wong..."The world's greatest player vs the world's slowest player!".
He brought the house own with that one.
Poolmouse
Yes sir. See actions have consequences. Sadly the OP has now told lots of folks he is easily distracted and annoyed. In the real world folks just might use that against him. I'm not saying it is right but that is the way it is.