Bobby Pickle Report

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av84fun

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There are lots of rumors swirling and only for sake of accuracy and with Bobby's permission, here's the deal.

At LAST year's Memphis Classic he was using a motel room that had been rented by two....ummm..."friends" which was literally invaded by several Memphis cops.

Drugs were found in the room...including pot and cocaine that I know for a FACT Bobby does not have ANYTHING to do with.

But he was arrested and finally took a plea bargain deal (last week) under threat of a VERY long sentence if he lost at trial.

He was given until 3/25 to get his affairs together and will be sentenced to something from probation to 3 years depending on how the judge decides on the 25th.

For the record, and for whatever it's worth, Bobby and I have become very close friends over the past few years and have traveled together extensively. He has never even MENTIONED pot or cocaine...has never had any in his possession and therefore, has never dealt any as far as I know...and I WOULD know.

I will post the results of his sentencing hearing on 3/25. Bobby has been flooded with phone calls from well-wishers all over the U.S. and is very appreciative for that outpouring of support. He is in as good spirits as anyone could be under the circumstances and is MANNING UP...just like the MAN he is.



Jim
 
Bobby

I hope this turns out ok for him. He is a nice guy. Used to play with his son at Legends and he would come down some to see his grandchild. Nice guy to be around. Good Luck Bobby.---Smitty
 
I don't know Bobby Pickle, and I have no knowledge of this incident; I also don't have any feelings negative or positive towards the guy. You have to understand that I'm 100% sure that he knew the kind of people that he was hanging out with. Police don't just raid anyones hotel room. I think it is better to say nothing than to give a bs story of a "friends" hotel room. It's unfortunate that we waste space in our prisons for drug possesion, but that's a whole 'nother issue. He got caught, and he has to move on from it. Hopefully, he will learn not to associate himself with these type of "friends" anymore.
 
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av84fun said:
There are lots of rumors swirling and only for sake of accuracy and with Bobby's permission, here's the deal.

At LAST year's Memphis Classic he was using a motel room that had been rented by two....ummm..."friends" which was literally invaded by several Memphis cops.

Drugs were found in the room...including pot and cocaine that I know for a FACT Bobby does not have ANYTHING to do with.

But he was arrested and finally took a plea bargain deal (last week) under threat of a VERY long sentence if he lost at trial.

He was given until 3/25 to get his affairs together and will be sentenced to something from probation to 3 years depending on how the judge decides on the 25th.

For the record, and for whatever it's worth, Bobby and I have become very close friends over the past few years and have traveled together extensively. He has never even MENTIONED pot or cocaine...has never had any in his possession and therefore, has never dealt any as far as I know...and I WOULD know.

I will post the results of his sentencing hearing on 3/25. Bobby has been flooded with phone calls from well-wishers all over the U.S. and is very appreciative for that outpouring of support. He is in as good spirits as anyone could be under the circumstances and is MANNING UP...just like the MAN he is.



Jim
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I agree with every word, AV8. Bobby Pickle is cut from the same mold as Scotty Townsend. He is loved by all who really know him. I wish Bobby all the best, now and in the future.
 
The whole guilt by association thing is a blight on our society. The idea that every person within an enclosed space is responsible for the contents is ridicuous.

Not assigning innocence or guilt but drugs found in a room where literally dozens of people have instant access 24 hours a day is hardly proven beyond reasonable doubt.

I have no doubt that Bobby was "forced" into a plea bargain.

Very sad.
 
I wish him luck, and don't doubt any of what you say. These situations are always bad, and theres not much you can ever do.

Hope all turns out well.
 
JB Cases said:
The whole guilt by association thing is a blight on our society. The idea that every person within an enclosed space is responsible for the contents is ridicuous.

Not assigning innocence or guilt but drugs found in a room where literally dozens of people have instant access 24 hours a day is hardly proven beyond reasonable doubt.

I have no doubt that Bobby was "forced" into a plea bargain.

Very sad.
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TAP, TAP, TAP. JB's post should be manditory reading by all law enforcement officials as well as all three branches of government, rep for ya, JB. I guess I should also state that I am a Libertarian and think drugs should be legal, taxed and the billions of $$$ spent on the war on drugs diverted to other more worthy causes, such as education on drug use. No,,,,,,,,,I do not use drugs.
 
hemicudas said:
TAP, TAP, TAP. JB's post should be manditory reading by all law enforcement officials as well as all three branches of government, rep for ya, JB. I guess I should also state that I am a Libertarian and think drugs should be legal, taxed and the billions of $$$ spent on the war on drugs diverted to other more worthy causes, such as education on drug use. No,,,,,,,,,I do not use drugs.
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Blame the people who elect the legislators who with their ulterior motives make draconian laws

Blame the so called patriots who blindly believe that authorities like police are honest and noble and do not belive that police will stoop down to the level of planting the evidence and lying

Blame the prosecutors who suppress the exculpatatory evidence( favoring the defendant)

finally,blame it on Puritonic values we all harbor in the back of our minds.:cool:
 
the times when money talks

I'm sure Bobby was between a rock and a hard place. Far better to defend yourself, if you have the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs to do so. If you don't have the dollars you are stuck with a public defender and a plea bargain being shoved at you. Odds are very thin of actually pulling the kind of years they are throwing around to scare someone into a plea bargain but the defendant can't be sure.

It sounds like whatever the sentence is Bobby will be a convicted felon for the rest of his life just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That bites.

Hu
 
This is sad and I wish him the best. I don't know him but have seen him at a few tournaments. I had this happen to a friend of mine and a bunch of us got together and went as character witness for him and everything got dropped. Why can you guys that know him do this for him?? Just a thought. For you that are his true friends see if you can talk with his lawyer and get something going on this. You can?t put a man in jail if he hasn?t done any crime. Good luck, Doug
 
ABall said:
I don't know Bobby Pickle, and I have no knowledge of this incident; I also don't have any feelings negative or positive towards the guy. You have to understand that I'm 100% sure that he knew the kind of people that he was hanging out with. Police don't just raid anyones hotel room. I think it is better to say nothing than to give a bs story of a "friends" hotel room. It's unfortunate that we waste space in our prisons for drug possesion, but that's a whole 'nother issue. He got caught, and he has to move on from it. Hopefully, he will learn not to associate himself with these type of "friends" anymore.
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That's what I was thinking. Is this the same Bobby Pickel that did about a year in Tennessee in 91-92? If so, a prior felony isn't going to help his situatuion. Nevertheless, I wish the absolute best for the man.
 
I wish Bobby the best - what gave the Memphis cops the right to invade the room in the first place?
 
JB Cases said:
The whole guilt by association thing is a blight on our society. The idea that every person within an enclosed space is responsible for the contents is ridicuous.

Not assigning innocence or guilt but drugs found in a room where literally dozens of people have instant access 24 hours a day is hardly proven beyond reasonable doubt.

I have no doubt that Bobby was "forced" into a plea bargain.

Very sad.
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I agree with you completely about the association thing being wrong, but it is tougher than you think to get a conviction like that. It would be very difficult to convict someone for drugs in a room they shared with other people unless you were in the room when it was raided and the drugs were out in the open, or unless nobody was is the room at the time it was raided but the room was in your name and the drugs were in a common area instead of in someones bag, in which case the friends would have also had to deny that they were theirs. Crappy friends if that was the case. Anyway, we don't know the story. Maybe he knew about the drugs but chose to assume that risk of not doing anything about it and it bit him in the butt. Maybe he admitted to the police that he knew about them. Maybe they were in clear sight and he was in the room when it was raided. Maybe one of his buddies had stashed them in his suitcase. I am not saying any of this was the case, and he may well have gotten railroaded, but we really don't know any of the details of what happened. I wish the best for him if he had no knowledge of it.
 
watchez said:
I wish Bobby the best - what gave the Memphis cops the right to invade the room in the first place?
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Memphis cops are almost as corrupt as the criminals. Especially on the bad sides of town. Yes I said sides not side. lol :eek:

i wish Bobby the best, he is always good company at tournaments
 
that is funny!

mr8ball said:
You can?t put a man in jail if he hasn?t done any crime. Good luck, Doug
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Doug,

Not meaning to pick on you but that is funny! For years I was very close to both LEO's and the "bad guys". One thing that both sides seemed to be in agreement on was that many people were behind bars for crimes that they didn't do. The LEO's believed that pretty much everyone behind bars deserved to be there. If not for the crime they were convicted of, then for other reasons. The outlaws were somewhat annoyed about people being railroaded, particularly if they were the one railroaded, but some of them admitted that doing the time was simply the lifestyle catching up with them.

Not knowing Bobby or having first hand information about this deal, I don't know if bad choices or bad luck got him into trouble. I do know that there are a lot more ways of getting in trouble than committing a crime. Two employees of mine about ten years apart were thought to have inside information concerning a murder. I could write a book concerning what either of those guys went through from the legal system although neither one was ever suspected of direct involvement in a crime.

Hu
 
Didn't bobby have some "friends" who robbed a bank a few years back that he caught some heat for?
 
ABall said:
I don't know Bobby Pickle, and I have no knowledge of this incident; I also don't have any feelings negative or positive towards the guy. You have to understand that I'm 100% sure that he knew the kind of people that he was hanging out with. Police don't just raid anyones hotel room. I think it is better to say nothing than to give a bs story of a "friends" hotel room. It's unfortunate that we waste space in our prisons for drug possesion, but that's a whole 'nother issue. He got caught, and he has to move on from it. Hopefully, he will learn not to associate himself with these type of "friends" anymore.
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Well, you have NO CLUE what you are talking about and I don't pass on BS stories....SIR.

Without getting into details that are none of your business in the first place...can you imagine a raid on a room rented by other people based on a snitch's tip that there were drugs in the room???

Now, can you imagine someone in that room for a brief period because he had already checked out of his own room?

You are right that certain people knew certain other people but if there was a law against being within 20 feet of someone carrying contraband at a pool tournament...then pool tables would have to be 20x10.

In any event you can but your BS comment back where BS comes from.
Jim
 
mr8ball said:
This is sad and I wish him the best. I don't know him but have seen him at a few tournaments. I had this happen to a friend of mine and a bunch of us got together and went as character witness for him and everything got dropped. Why can you guys that know him do this for him?? Just a thought. For you that are his true friends see if you can talk with his lawyer and get something going on this. You can?t put a man in jail if he hasn?t done any crime. Good luck, Doug
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The reference letters are being written as we speak. And sadly, innocent people are convicted all the time. Some for capital murder. The statistics are out. Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976 for every 7 people executed, 1 person was determined to be not guilty.

Pretty crappy odds if you are about to be fried.

But trust me...I DESPISE violtent criminals and those who deal drugs to children. I raised my son to know that if I ever caught him selling dope to a minor, the cops would be the LEAST of his worries.

Thanks for all the expressions of concern for Bobby. I will print them all out and give them to him.

Regards,
Jim
 
I'm no expert here, but, seems to me that all his "friends" have to do is stand up for him at a trial and state "he had nothing to do with any of these drugs". If they are truly "friends", that's not a hard task to complete to keep your friend out of jail. That alone, would more than likel, prevent any prosecutor from taking a drug case to trial.
 
watchez said:
I wish Bobby the best - what gave the Memphis cops the right to invade the room in the first place?
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A snitch provides probable cause. Review the thread about Angry. Could it be that the same snitch was involved in both incidents?

And thanks for your good wishes.

Regards,
Jim
 
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