9 ball rant
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You don't call shots in One Pocket.
You don't call shots in Snooker.
Call shot in Straight Pool, 99 per cent of the time is unnecessary.
IMHO - If he beat you, It's because he is better than you, not luckier.
BTW - there is no such thing as call pocket, it's called "call shot"
Dale
call pocket and call shot are 2 different things.
you're more or less right though. most people don't lose matches playing 9 ball because of slopped balls. you might lose games but the better player is still going to win the match
LOL, that's why the pros have moved to calling pocket in the last few 10 ball tourny's.
Sometimes a guy gets lucky in a race slopping in balls 4 of 7 games and ends up winning. Not better, lucky. Now it doesn't happen all the time, but when it does it makes me sick.
BTW, i don't care about snooker. The last time i saw someone slop in a shot in one pocket i was 8 years old, all bca 8 ball is call pocket around here.
I'm saying if you are going to play pool grow a pair and call the pocket where you intend on making it
I agree. 9 ball is my least favorite game.
if you're losing playing 9 ball it isn't because the other guy is lucky. it's because the difference in talent isn't as big as you're thinking it is.
it's because they're playing people that play at the same level they do and the other player gets a roll.
the fact of the matter is that the better player is going to win. if you're losing because someone is slopping balls in it's because the difference in skill isn't as big as you thought it was or the dreaded truth, "you don't play as well as you think!". that second one is hard to admit for some people.
i lost a few hundred because of my denial a couple years ago. since then i've refused to lie to myself about how i actually play and i haven't booked an unacceptable loss since
9-Ball
I understand where you're coming from, but most Players do not slop much, maybe a few balls in 100 games.
David Harcrow
I understand where you're coming from, but most Players do not slop much, maybe a few balls in 100 games.
David Harcrow
I've seen many slopped shots in one pocket. Doesn't mean that the better player won't win majority of the time, but sure as hell there's luck in one pocket too.
you think that's sick? i was playing 14.1 with a good friend of mine and he ran 30 on me and gets perfect on the break shot. he hits the break shot so hard and bad that it goes 2 rails in to the pocket he called and smashed the rack open. he ran another 30 or so from there
The luck in 9 ball doesn't come so much from slopping balls. It happens, but more often than not in amateur play it's followed by a miss rather than a run out in the next couple of shots.
The luck factor is more to do with where players are missing and what they leave when they miss.
I find it is often that one player continuously misses on the 6,7 and 8 balls leaving his opponent 3-4 ball outs. The other player on the other hand may consistently miss and leave opportunities on the 1 or 2 ball always leaving a full table to run, which inevitably leads to the missed 6,7 or 8 ball. Now obviously you can say that better safety play needs to be employed, but that's easier said than done!
The other issue is that one player may constantly be leaving long tough shots, off angle shots or hooks after misses (not including two way shots). The other player will be leaving bih type shots.
Now this is more typified by amateur play, but I do see examples of it in the professional game too.
How a game where you can win a game by pocketing one ball to your opponents 8 is contested seriously by professionals, escapes me. I'll never understand what the problem with Rotation is.
I've had some pretty bad luck in Snooker and 14.1, but nowhere near the frequency in 9 ball.
The luck factor is more to do with where players are missing and what they leave when they miss.
I find it is often that one player continuously misses on the 6,7 and 8 balls leaving his opponent 3-4 ball outs. The other player on the other hand may consistently miss and leave opportunities on the 1 or 2 ball always leaving a full table to run, which inevitably leads to the missed 6,7 or 8 ball. Now obviously you can say that better safety play needs to be employed, but that's easier said than done!
The other issue is that one player may constantly be leaving long tough shots, off angle shots or hooks after misses (not including two way shots). The other player will be leaving bih type shots.
Now this is more typified by amateur play, but I do see examples of it in the professional game too.
How a game where you can win a game by pocketing one ball to your opponents 8 is contested seriously by professionals, escapes me. I'll never understand what the problem with Rotation is.
I've had some pretty bad luck in Snooker and 14.1, but nowhere near the frequency in 9 ball.
I won't say "that's 9-ball" but I will say this, when the day comes that you yourself never slops a ball in, that will be the day that I can respect this thread. Until then you, me, and every other schmuck on this forum ate guilty of it.
MULLY
Good post. this guys upset because he doesn't play well enough to counter act someone slopping in 1 ball every now and again.
if every time someone slopped a ball in on me led to them running out i'd be upset. let's face it that's not the way it happens
If everyone that slops a ball in has to jump off of a tall structure, what do those who miss and accidently stich the opponent have to do? I mean you didn't intend to play a safe there, and you didn't intend for the cue to end up where it did. Your opponent doesn't have a decent shot so you are likely to get BIH. That's just as significant as a slopped ball, perhaps more so since you can decide your course of action, rather than the "luck" of where the cue ends up after the slopped ball goes in.
{Same argument can be applied to the slop arguments in APA 8-ball, but thats another thread. And just as pointless.}
{Same argument can be applied to the slop arguments in APA 8-ball, but thats another thread. And just as pointless.}
sloppy joe...
I believe slopping in a ball every now and then is a fun part of the 9-ball experience. As your skill level increases, however, the likelyhood of slopping balls in decreases exponentially.
If your opponenent is continually "getting lucky" by slopping balls then he's a banger and you should be able to figure out a way to counter his luck.
But if you are losing too often to a guy who keeps slopping balls in, then it may be as poolplayer said; that the gap in skills may be narrower than you think.
Best,
Brian kc
I believe slopping in a ball every now and then is a fun part of the 9-ball experience. As your skill level increases, however, the likelyhood of slopping balls in decreases exponentially.
If your opponenent is continually "getting lucky" by slopping balls then he's a banger and you should be able to figure out a way to counter his luck.
But if you are losing too often to a guy who keeps slopping balls in, then it may be as poolplayer said; that the gap in skills may be narrower than you think.
Best,
Brian kc
I will keep my opinion short and sweet...I LOVE playing 9-ball against bangers or someone who thinks they will beat me cause it is a "luck" game. lmao. I would say someone will "slop" in a shot just as often as someone can hang the 9 and give you the game.
If you dont like it, dont play it. But you cant knock the game just because of a opinion you have about it. In every game, someone can get a "lucky roll" and hook you, or a lucky ball will drop. In the long race of 9-ball, the better player will win.
Carl
If you dont like it, dont play it. But you cant knock the game just because of a opinion you have about it. In every game, someone can get a "lucky roll" and hook you, or a lucky ball will drop. In the long race of 9-ball, the better player will win.
Carl
I started playing in 1961 and they have always meant the same thing. Except in bars.