Banking Demonstration with Video

matta

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I was recently watching a bank pool ring game on YouTube. The announcers were discussing shots and specifically talking about "twisting" banks. I thought to myself, "I bet your average league player would have no idea what these two are talking about."

I have been practicing these shots and decided to share the wealth, so to speak. Below is a Wei diagram of the 4 shots. The 1 and 4 balls are the interesting shots. I discuss each one in the video.

By the way, this is my first time doing any type of instruction on film, so be gentle. I would like some feedback, though.

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Good stuff Matta. I've found that with a few of the instructional dvds, the instructor may be a great player but seems somewhat uncomfortable being in front of a camera, and conveying what they need to say properly. You don't have that problem at all. I'd like to see more on a simplified way of using the diamonds without having to bring a slide rule or calculator to the table with me.
I love banking, just wish I could do it better.
 
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Who's your audience? As someone who knows the concepts you're talking about, I followed pretty easily. To a relative newbie or someone inexperienced at some of the nuances of banking, I can see that maybe some would want more specific or detailed explanation on the mechanics working behind some of those shots. At least, were I a beginner, I know I would.

Very good overall. Clear, concise speaking, good shots and a dash of personality that makes it less dry than many instructional videos.
 
was working on this very subject with these concepts today with a far more informed player than myself. I thought it was very clear and you did a wonderful job. I encourage you to keep at this!

Nice setup btw. :thumbup:
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Good stuff Matta. I've found that with a few of the instructional dvds, the instructor may be a great player but seems somewhat uncomfortable being in front of a camera, and conveying what they need to say properly. You don't have that problem at all.

Thank you for the kind words. Honestly, I've been considering doing some short videos like this for a while. Had I known it would turn out so well, I probably would have done it sooner.

Blue Hog ridr said:
I'd like to see more on a simplified way of using the diamonds without having to bring a slide rule or calculator to the table with me.
I love banking, just wish I could do it better.

Personally, I find the "Diamond System" VERY confusing. I still use the diamonds as an aiming reference. I use them to find the geometric angle. But then you have to adjust for everything else that affects a bank.

Like:
Speed at which the shot is struck.
English on the cue ball for shape.
How close the object ball is to the rail.
Humidity
Cutting the ball to hit your banking angle.

Any of these, in certain situations, is enough to make you miss a bank. Knowing the geometric banking angle is just the first step in making bank shot.
 
Rocket354 said:
Who's your audience? As someone who knows the concepts you're talking about, I followed pretty easily. To a relative newbie or someone inexperienced at some of the nuances of banking, I can see that maybe some would want more specific or detailed explanation on the mechanics working behind some of those shots. At least, were I a beginner, I know I would.

I agree with this. Some explanation of why shooting the shots different ways creates different results would be a good addition. Also, it would help if there was some way to show more clearly how the various angles compare to the "true" angle.

But this short video will be helpful to many even without those things.

Very good overall. Clear, concise speaking, good shots and a dash of personality that makes it less dry than many instructional videos.

Ditto.

pj
chgo
 
TXsouthpaw said:
nice table.

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TheTablePro has done some great work getting it setup and running right. He really does top notch work if you need pool table repair in western NC.

We are lucky to have such a nice piece of equipment at our disposal.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I agree with this. Some explanation of why shooting the shots different ways creates different results would be a good addition. Also, it would help if there was some way to show more clearly how the various angles compare to the "true" angle.

I like this idea. I have an idea for another short video showing how to apply these shots in real world situations. I think I can show "why" you'd want to spin a bank in certain situations.

Edit: Hrm... This isn't what you are talking about. You want a description of why/how you can spin the object ball?
 
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