Just to settel some minds this topic has come up again, I have spent a lot of time in Africa and worked in the Safari industry photographic & hunting-for just over 7 years. I have friends who have been in the business for 40 years 3 generations-thats who I work with, I go to Africa every year for a month or two at a time, i communicate with them all the time, I just wanted to clairfy a few things, and inform people who havent been to africa or understand what is really going on there, the information we get here on TV, is way off base, just like people who think that all pool players are drunks etc, they have all these preconcieved notions and never been to a pool room. I've been to Africa many time and want to share this:
(I was responding to a post in a long thread)you are right the African elephants will kill you in a big hurry, especially cows, tuskless(recessive genitic trait) are the meanest of them all or when they have calfs(cute little guys). The elephant populations are at record levels since game counts started over 100 years ago, killing endangered animals or killing elephants in areas where there are small endangered populations of elephants(not to many areas) is worse than wrong, its unconsienciable(SP?), but killing elephants where there are strong populations that will renew themselfs at the rate they are being harvested is ok, killing elephants to the extent your reducing the size of the heards is no good either, so it depends on the circumstances, I have killed elephants and will again. I wouldnt ever shoot a rhino, infact it is LEGAL to shoot and kill rhino and ivory poachers in most countrys-Zimbabwe etc.
The $$ that I pay or anyone who sport hunts any animal goes into the Parks(like the game wardens here) to control the poachers, do game counts and define quotas every year to insure the groewth and managment of ALL animals. Hunting is the largest source of $$ for most southern african countrys thus they protect the game to insure their oun future.
All the animals that are killed in africa are eaten, no protein goes to waste in Africa, hell they eat the lungs of animals, all the hides, bones etc are used or turned into carvings etc, Ivory is just a small % of what is used, when an dead elephant is found the Ivory is measured, weighed, and the area is recorded, there are wearhouses of tusks, they used to burn them when they had no-more room, now they got smart and sell most of it to china.
Its a industry that is misunderstood by 99% of Americans because of all the bogus charitys raising $$$ under the pretence that they are going to save the world and all the animals in it, meanwhile they are living lavishly on ill gotten gains, the Christains who go to Africa and build schools etc. are accepted by the people who live in the bush with open arms because they get cloths and food, when the Christians leave they vacate the buildings they build and go back to their huts-I have plenty of pics, they perfer their huts to proper buildings, in the urban areas its different its like it is here just not as nice, but bushmen are bushmen,
thats the end of my Africa lession, but dont worrie about Ivory and killing elephants. its ok.
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(I was responding to a post in a long thread)you are right the African elephants will kill you in a big hurry, especially cows, tuskless(recessive genitic trait) are the meanest of them all or when they have calfs(cute little guys). The elephant populations are at record levels since game counts started over 100 years ago, killing endangered animals or killing elephants in areas where there are small endangered populations of elephants(not to many areas) is worse than wrong, its unconsienciable(SP?), but killing elephants where there are strong populations that will renew themselfs at the rate they are being harvested is ok, killing elephants to the extent your reducing the size of the heards is no good either, so it depends on the circumstances, I have killed elephants and will again. I wouldnt ever shoot a rhino, infact it is LEGAL to shoot and kill rhino and ivory poachers in most countrys-Zimbabwe etc.
The $$ that I pay or anyone who sport hunts any animal goes into the Parks(like the game wardens here) to control the poachers, do game counts and define quotas every year to insure the groewth and managment of ALL animals. Hunting is the largest source of $$ for most southern african countrys thus they protect the game to insure their oun future.
All the animals that are killed in africa are eaten, no protein goes to waste in Africa, hell they eat the lungs of animals, all the hides, bones etc are used or turned into carvings etc, Ivory is just a small % of what is used, when an dead elephant is found the Ivory is measured, weighed, and the area is recorded, there are wearhouses of tusks, they used to burn them when they had no-more room, now they got smart and sell most of it to china.
Its a industry that is misunderstood by 99% of Americans because of all the bogus charitys raising $$$ under the pretence that they are going to save the world and all the animals in it, meanwhile they are living lavishly on ill gotten gains, the Christains who go to Africa and build schools etc. are accepted by the people who live in the bush with open arms because they get cloths and food, when the Christians leave they vacate the buildings they build and go back to their huts-I have plenty of pics, they perfer their huts to proper buildings, in the urban areas its different its like it is here just not as nice, but bushmen are bushmen,
thats the end of my Africa lession, but dont worrie about Ivory and killing elephants. its ok.
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