Any word if this tour will happen before the end of the year??
Galveston World Classic
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Do a search in this forum. The 1st Classic was a complete disaster. Don't believe they're doing another.
I don't want to say, "I told you so," but I just did. :grin:
A lot of us 'naysayers' were chided for our opinions of how badly this event was planned and organized.
This was quite a big event and alot to try and undertake for the first attempt at it. I give them credit for at least trying to make a great event. They maybe should have started a little smaller to begin with but I think they went for the wow factor and it seems they took on too much.
Yep, and sad it worked out that way....
Many of us offered time, advice, and help.....there were a number of big, unanswered questions up front.....much of AZ was quick to offer advice and experience to make sure it was a success.....if I remember right, there was supposed to be a question/answer session that never happened.....
Almost all of AZ was in favor and wanted it to come off like gangbusters, but the deliberate skating of certain important items made the end result fairly obvious up front.....
Hell the whole world said it
That is only part of the story that few know!!
If not mistaken, Scott Smith was on payroll and he "walked away" after a few days, they were trying to tell him how to run a tournament
If not mistaken, Scott Smith was on payroll and he "walked away" after a few days, they were trying to tell him how to run a tournament
Scott did not "walk away". He was not a tournament director, he was the MC. Too bad the facts get twisted. The isssues were not the way the tournament was run. It was the advertised money.
Thanks for clarifying the situation I was unsure of, but he did leave before the event was over, that I do know.
After last year, they actually said they'd do another one this year but it didnt take a genius to know that was BS.
I think I read here that the Rone brothers have some interest in the new room that just opened in Houston. Perhaps they'll do some kind of big tournament there. I think there was a "Lone Star Tour" event there last weekend. I don't know if the Rones had any part in that or not.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Why does this make you feel good Jay? It's certainly not a good thing for pool. OH...wait , I get it, your feelings were hurt when they didn't seek out your sage advice.
I would think that someone that loves pool and wants to see it become more successful would be saddened by this tournament not continuing. I don't know what the total was they paid out, I'm guessing around $100k. But apparently, Jay, you feel good about it because you felt slighted in some way. Get your ego in check.
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Punter, I'm gonna go to bat for Jay on this one, mind you, I KNOW where your coming from, I worked for the BCA offices when they made their move to Colorado Springs from Iowa. When hired, was thinking I could help the sport, SURPRISE, business as usual for the BCA board of directors and so it is today. Me as a player and Jay as a promoter have been disillousioned by what's transpired over the last 30 years when in comes to ANOTHER POOL TOURNAMENT (with KT business plan but less $$) but the love of the game/sport has kept us on task and won't let us go. We've seen this scenario SOOOO many times there's a Knee Jerk Reaction....IT AIN'T GONNA WORK. Having owned my own room and designed and help build out two others in CO (2 still open) I feel your discust in your thread reply, basically our world sucks allot of the time, yet we have one of the worlds greatest games but society won't let us IN. Yeah Jay does promote a little too much at times but don't we all, we are who we are, and Jay has stuck/supported/created venues for our game that not many can or have done, so let it rest, life moves on. Jays comments were more "here we go again" when in fact he KNOWS how to spend that money better and improve conditions for the PLAYERS and thats where his attitude gets tweaked, so does mine.
Galveston event
Punter.
A LOT of knowledgeable people in the industry tried to help the promoters of that event. I personally spent time with them and put together a package to do everything they needed, from referees, tournament director, taking signups - the whole deal.
They decided to do their own thing. I respected their decision. But they did not take any of the good advice.
In the end, they used the same tournament director, referees, tables, and chart systems. They did not use our signups or classificaiton of players.
The pool community lost on this whole deal. If the promoters really wanted to help pool, there was a lot better use of the massive amount they lost. The problem with pool promoters is kinda like a lot of pool players. Too Much EGO and not willing to work with others.
I think they loose between $300 - $400K! That could have been combined with others funds and we could have had the start of a decent tour.
Such a waste!!! If anyone else ever wants to do a BIG EVENT - Please try to not reinvent the wheel.
Mark Griffin
Punter.
A LOT of knowledgeable people in the industry tried to help the promoters of that event. I personally spent time with them and put together a package to do everything they needed, from referees, tournament director, taking signups - the whole deal.
They decided to do their own thing. I respected their decision. But they did not take any of the good advice.
In the end, they used the same tournament director, referees, tables, and chart systems. They did not use our signups or classificaiton of players.
The pool community lost on this whole deal. If the promoters really wanted to help pool, there was a lot better use of the massive amount they lost. The problem with pool promoters is kinda like a lot of pool players. Too Much EGO and not willing to work with others.
I think they loose between $300 - $400K! That could have been combined with others funds and we could have had the start of a decent tour.
Such a waste!!! If anyone else ever wants to do a BIG EVENT - Please try to not reinvent the wheel.
Mark Griffin
I don't know the Rhones or anyone else who ran the Galveston tournament. IMO these guys tried to put on a high dollar pro tournament here in the USA, which I think most will agree we have far too few of. I think their motive and intentions were their love of the game of pool. They made some miscalculations, which resulted in some of the purses being less than as advertised, and in them losing quite a bit of money. But, again, IMO. they put on a very good tournament, especially for a first time. Comparing them to KT (not saying that you did) would be unfair, considering KT's track record.
It's their money, so they make the decisions. Saying "I told you so" just seems like, "if they had only listened to me". At any rate, I enjoyed being able to see Efren and Earl, all the other pros, and some old friends at the Galveston tournament. Maybe they will try to do it again in the future at their new place in Houston.
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