Bringing Gold Crown 1's back to life

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Gold Crown 1 rehab: Im new to this forum 1st post.thank you in advance for your patience and help.. I have read most of the 85 pages concerning early gcs. I will be asking questions from time to time and appreciate all the help. off to my projects
 
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Short but sweet!

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes or any k55
4. yes, it must affect them somehow, it cant make them better.

Superspeeds only come in k55s


I believe the table saw would be overkill on cushion removal but who knows? I would want to see that done before I say it's a bad idea.:groucho:
 
I will answer some of this and let the rest be handled by the other all knowers on here. BSSpeeds are all K55. The difference know to then is the size from back to front along the top of nose. So to get the new ones to be properly installed on the rails you will need to cut about a 1/8" off the subrail keeping the same bevel. I would however check on other cushions that are K55 that fit your price range because i personally am not a big fan of the new superspeeds they are just poorly finished i end up having to do alot of sanding along the top so they feel flush and even with top of subrail. I run them through a table saw with a very sharp blade at about 21deg. i would take the old cushion off before cutting
 
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GC1 legs are not adjustable and have a cushion profile that is no longer Available..
.There is some every important factors that is going to come into play when cutting.your rite on track with using the feather strip dado as a guide"just make sure the rail is bolted to the slate"...pictures of what you got will help a ton..
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Rob.M
 
Gold Crown 1 rehab: Im new to this forum 1st post.thank you in advance for your patience and help.I bought 8 Gc1s from a pool room where they were for 40+ years. they have only been recovered less than ten times. I have read most of the 85 pages concerning early gcs. I have a woodworking and cabinet background and would like to undertake fixin up these tables: liner extensions, re rubber, new pockets etc. After reading most of the info I'm thoroughly confused about the rail rubber and have a few questions.

What i have discovered so far is that
six of the tables have the figure eight rail bolt plate and two have the hidden nuts, although they all have adjustable leg levelers and only one has the acrylic nameplate the rest are metal nameplates, and these all fall into the category of gc1 I think? I dont have the rail rubber off yet to determine the angle of the liner but;
1) if im careful when i remove the old rubber and dont damage the liner, doesn't the process just involve adding the liner extensions and putting back on new Brunswick Super Speed?
2)Is the cutting of the liner neccesary even if I put back on BSSPEED?
3)Does it make sense to put Artemis, or Diamond rubber on?
4) What about if i have acces to new old stock of Brunswick rubber ? does it deteriorate in the box?
As Im asking you guys these questions im realizing i need to do some more work on my end, i.e. find out the liner angle of all the rails sets, find out the profile of the new old stock brunswick rubber and compare it to the new brunswick ss. ,artemis, diamond,etc.

Brunswick K55 rubber= Artemis Intercontinental No.66 ? Am I understanding this corectly? Also that brunswick superspeed comes in two profiles K55 and K66 the k55 being the bigger of the two?or is the k55 now gone and no longer available, and newer brunswicks just use the lesser k66 ?by newer i mean newer than approx 1970 -1975

Is it wrong to try to cut off the existing rail rubber with a high quality cabinet table saw? If I adjust the correct (high tooth count) blade to the correct angle I should be able to keep making passes through the saw till I have a fresh clean glue surface to work from? 48 rails each pass, and should all come out the same? My other way of thinking would be a straightedge and saw setup from the top with a jig made up to run off of the featherstrip channel keeping the cut square to the channel. Like the festool saw where its locked into the straightedge, accurate+ - 64th inch. As you can tell I need your help sorry for the long post, Ill do some homework and be back with more questions..

Well it sounds as thou you're for sure going to do the table work yourself....but if you would love to have the tables play perfect, I would get in touch with Glen.....Real King Cobra.....he has just completed 8 GC1 tables with artemis cushions, and did a ton of rail work on the tables to get them perfect.

He's in Tacoma, Wa. right now and may be able to make the trip......if you want the tables done professionally.
You will end up with top of the line tables if Glen sets them up, and fixes the rails the right way.

Good Luck if you are going to do the tables yourself.....a lot of work. :grin-square:

Trust me if you call him, you'll be more than happy later.

Mark Gregory
 
GC1 legs are not adjustable and have a cushion profile that is no longer Available..
.There is some every important factors that is going to come into play when cutting.your rite on track with using the feather strip dado as a guide"just make sure the rail is bolted to the slate"...pictures of what you got will help a ton..
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Rob.M

Later models of GC1's did come out with adjustable leg levelers;) but it was a change noted to the GC2's. The plastic Brunswick name plate was on the early GC1's, then were switched to the metal name plates before the GC2's came out, but once again it was noted to be a change on the GC2's. The figure eight rail bolt plate was only on the GC1's rails, the floating nut plate was first used on the GC2's rails and was inserted depth wise and not width wise until the GC3's came out. Pocket castings on the GC1's were cast very thick, on the GC2's they were cast much thinner.

The GC1's came out with Brunswick Monarch K55 cushions, but were actually only 1 1/16" from nose to back, sub-rail 7/8" wide. GC2's came with Monarch cushions as well, but later switched to K55 Superspeed cushions, but once again, they were only 1 1/16" wide, sub-rails 7/8" wide. Todays Brunswick Superspeed K55 cushions are 1 1/4" wide, so the sub-rails on the GC1,2's would have to be modified to accept any of the new K55 cushions today.

Glen
 
Thank you guy for all of your info. It won't be necessary to cot off the rubber as it came off much easier than I expected it to. I used lacquer thinner in a squeeze (glue bottle) and ran a small bead of it down the line between the cushion and the liner. I did this several times and let the rails sit overnite. The next day the rubber came right off of most of the pieces and some needed more Laq Thinner and time but all came off without tearing out the liners.



Thanks again for helping me understand this confusion?
 
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