Tip Questions

schonshooter

schonshooter

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I am curious as to what you folks think would be the best tip for a average player. I have shot with Kamui, Moori, Triangle, and Le Pro. Maybe I am ignorant but I just can't tell one from another. Reason I am asking is I am ordering a new cue and want to order a predator shaft with it. My playing style isn't necessarily "hard shooting", and I do use english on alot of shots. I also prefer a tip that holds chalk well. What do you think should I stick with a layered tip like Moori or Kamui or just use a Triangle?
 
schonshooter...Since you "can't tell the difference" why not go with the cheaper tip? Why pay $25 or more if you can't tell a difference? BTW, I also think that almost any tip will suffice for the average player.

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schonshooter said:
I am curious as to what you folks think would be the best tip for a average player. I have shot with Kamui, Moori, Triangle, and Le Pro. Maybe I am ignorant but I just can't tell one from another. Reason I am asking is I am ordering a new cue and want to order a predator shaft with it. My playing style isn't necessarily "hard shooting", and I do use english on alot of shots. I also prefer a tip that holds chalk well. What do you think should I stick with a layered tip like Moori or Kamui or just use a Triangle?
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Ok I agree about the money thing. It seems if so and so is shooting with a Kamui then in my area everyone follows suit. Can you explain to me the difference between soft, medium and hard tips in terms of what they can or can't do on the table along with layered and non layered tips? I want to get to the point where I can go "ok I need a soft non layered tip for my style of play". I have placed in the top ten in state 8 ball tournaments so I feel like I should "know the difference" but I really feel I don't. Thanks Again.
 
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you are asking a question that is going to be answered with peoples opinions. You would be much further ahead to play with a very hard tip for a while, then a soft tip then a medium tip. Find out for yourself the difference in play & go from there. I dont think you should be looking for a tip that fits a style of shooting. Just a tip that feels good to you.

Good luck in your search,

slim
 
schonshooter said:
Ok I agree about the money thing. It seems if so and so is shooting with a Kamui then in my area everyone follows suit. Can you explain to me the difference between soft, medium and hard tips in terms of what they can or can't do on the table along with layered and non layered tips? I want to get to the point where I can go "ok I need a soft non layered tip for my style of play". I have placed in the top ten in state 8 ball tournaments so I feel like I should "know the difference" but I really feel I don't. Thanks Again.
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what state are you from that an average player gets in the top ten in state...Here in TX an average player is called a caddy...carry my sticks BEEEOTCH!!!:thumbup:

on a more serious note, I play with Kamui medium tip...and there is a difference. It doesnt mushroom and i play pretty aggressive... I use most other tips and on the first or second session of playing I am using a tip tool to shave the sides down. I dont have that problem with these tips...
 
If you're getting a 314, they come with an Everest or do you have a choice of tip? If thats the case, use the Everest and see what you think and change out later when the tip wears down.

Its just something where you'll have to try out a plethora of different tips and see what suits your style the best.

I've tried a lot of tips, my own Duds, Le Pro, just about every one you can think of and lately, I've settled on the Triangle. It doesn't have to be the most expensive tip available for you to like it.
 
schonshooter said:
I am curious as to what you folks think would be the best tip for a average player. I have shot with Kamui, Moori, Triangle, and Le Pro. Maybe I am ignorant but I just can't tell one from another. Reason I am asking is I am ordering a new cue and want to order a predator shaft with it. My playing style isn't necessarily "hard shooting", and I do use english on alot of shots. I also prefer a tip that holds chalk well. What do you think should I stick with a layered tip like Moori or Kamui or just use a Triangle?
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The average bar box player is using an Elkmaster since the majority of house cues use them. Triangle would have to be the most common on manufacturers shafts IMO.

I like softer tips and a Z2 shaft, so I prefer the Black Kamui SS or the Elkmaster. The SS plays similar to the Elkmaster without the maintenance and shorter life.

Since you don't notice any difference at this time, I would just try the stock Everest tip for now. Most tips I have used hold chalk well with the exception of the LePro. I am just not a fan of these hard tips.

I have two new Predators shafts being fitted and I am going to use the stock tips for now. For how long, I don't know? I haven't used this tip before. Otherwise, they will both get Black Kamui SS's.
 
Do you notice that the Kamui SS require alot of upkeep? ie mushrooming etc? I have had the best luck with a Triangle but I understand they are very hard tips.
 
I could very well be delusional, but I find I can move the ball around alot better with a hard tip when I'm playing on a big table. I can't juice up the ball enough when I play with soft or medium tips. I don't think it is in my head, but there's lots of room for thoughts to bounce around in there.
 
I tried a Kamui SS. It mushroomed and flattened every couple of games.
It was done in a month. In using it, I didn't notice anything that blew my hair back over any other soft tip. Kamuis are great tips, I just wouldn't use a SS again.
 
Not to hijack the thread,but what effect is so bad from when a tip mushrooms on the sides?
As for the tips on a cue, since you are getting a predator shaft, tr it for a while and see.
Different tips for different strokes on the same cue. Only you will know what is best for you after a while.
It seems harder tips highlight stroke flaw, while softer tips are more forgiving.
Since you will be going to a LD cueshaft, there is alot more to learn as well.
 
It may seem weird, but I always use a Moori Medium with the first couple layers cut off with a razor blade. It gives me the low maintenance and feel of a slightly harder tip, but the chalk retention of a med to med soft tip.

Then again, also enjoy the smell of dry erase markers & gasoline... :eek:
 
I've used LePro, Triangle and Moori. I thought the Triangle was great when it was new, but it took a lot more maintenance to keep in good shape than the Moori. I heard Buddy Hall praising the LePro tips today over the internet, although he said that you have to make sure it's a "good" one.

Here's another TIP question... Should I pay a guy working at a pool hall to put a new tip on for me (what I have always done), or should I invest the bucks and get the equipment to do it myself. ???
 
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Druid said:
I've used LePro, Triangle and Moori. I thought the Triangle was great when it was new, but it took a lot more maintenance to keep in good shape than the Moori. I heard Buddy Hall praising the LePro tips today over the internet, although he said that you have to make sure it's a "good" one.

Here's another TIP question... Should I pay a guy working at a pool hall to put a new tip on for me (what I have always done), or should I invest the bucks and get the equipment to do it myself. ???
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How do you know if you've a good one though? I've heard the same about Triangles - first one I put on was superb, thought I'd never use another tip again. The second's been a nightmare - far, far too soft for my tastes.
 
TheThaiger said:
How do you know if you've a good one though? I've heard the same about Triangles - first one I put on was superb, thought I'd never use another tip again. The second's been a nightmare - far, far too soft for my tastes.
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I don't have a clue on how I would tell a good tip from a bad one. I hope the people I've paid in the past to put tips on would care to give me a "good" one. I've heard about some experiment of seeing if they float in water or not (one means good, the other bad... not sure which), and another test of sticking your thumb nail into the back of it, but I'm not sure what that proves either. Good question for a cue mechanic.
 
IMO, i think that for the average player, a triangle tip is good enough. That's what i shot with for my first couple years of this wonderful game. Then, when i started getting more serious, i tried out a moori medium tip. IMO it feels like it "grips" the cb more and i can apply more english to the cb when i need to. Since then i have purchased a ob-2 shaft which had a everest tip on it from the factory. This seemed to play well for me also, but i made the mistake of leaving my cues in my trunk on a humid day and after that, i would miscue when applying bottom english here and there. (I'm assuming it was a moisture issue in the tip... Since then i have had a moori medium put on the ob-2 and love the way it plays. But i use draw and inside english more than not for my position play. Ultimately i think it depends on the type of stroke of the shooter (hard shooter or soft shooter) as to whether you should get a soft medium or hard tip. Harder the shooter, harder the tip. I've seen guys with soft tips get mushroomed out frequently and they are constantly reshaping them. Also i reccomend layered tips if you use english alot during the game. IMO layered tips are better for making the cb travel more.
 
WOW I am obviously new here, thanks for all the info! In the end I have been shooting with a Kamui Medium for about the last 4 years, I just want a little more chalk retention to get rid of miscues on extreme draw shots. I don't shoot hard so I think I will go with the Kamui Black Soft and see how that treats me.
 
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