Question about Kamui Tips

Rob_jerrylee

Rob_jerrylee

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Hey everyone I've got a question about Kamui tips at the moment I've got a Lepro on my cue and I was wondering if someone could explain to me about the different tip hardness from kamui from Super Soft , Soft , Medium , Hard , I guess what I'm asking is what each tip does .
 
Rob_jerrylee said:
Hey everyone I've got a question about Kamui tips at the moment I've got a Lepro on my cue and I was wondering if someone could explain to me about the different tip hardness from kamui from Super Soft , Soft , Medium , Hard , I guess what I'm asking is what each tip does .
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Hi there,
I might be able to help you. Take a look at the elasticity chart on the home page of KamuiTips.com
 
i used to play lepro too. at the very least you MUST try A triangle, youll just have to trust me on this :)

If you like the hardness of your lepro, and want a kamui, id go medium.
 
I've tried the kamui soft, medium, black medium, and black hard, and they all have one thing in common: they will miscue like a mofo! I had a bunch of folks try and tell me it was my fault, my stroke sucked, I was using too much english, etc. Then I switched to milk duds, and ta da! Very very few miscues. Same bad stroke, still using too much english, but amazingly near zero miscues, unless I do something stupid like try use w and a half tips of spin, lol. Its not just me either, there are a couple local guys that had the exact same experience. Good luck in whatever you decide bud.


Joe
 
I have played with SS,S , M and Hard. never miscued. I have played with Super Pro and never miscued.
 
I've used the original med. soft & now I'm on my second black soft tip,and I've never had a misscue'n problem.
 
I've been using the Kamui Black Soft - not having miscue issues.
Triangles are very good tips. Used them all the time years ago (before early Moori MH came out - those were great).
Lots of folks lovin' the various milk dud tips.

Nobody can tell you for sure what YOUR HANDS are gonna feel.
 
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snipershot said:
I've tried the kamui soft, medium, black medium, and black hard, and they all have one thing in common: they will miscue like a mofo! I had a bunch of folks try and tell me it was my fault, my stroke sucked, I was using too much english, etc. Then I switched to milk duds, and ta da! Very very few miscues. Same bad stroke, still using too much english, but amazingly near zero miscues, unless I do something stupid like try use w and a half tips of spin, lol. Its not just me either, there are a couple local guys that had the exact same experience. Good luck in whatever you decide bud.


Joe
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Ok now you guys are going to think I've probably been living under a rock but what are milk duds ?????
 
I miscue a lot, and I mean a lot. Funny thing was, with my soft Kamui Black, I'd miscue just as often but it'd never make me miss the shot. Most bizarre. Every other tip, I bounce the ball off the table, but the KB miscues keeps the ball on line, just loss of pace/draw, is all.
 
You can find lepro's that are have different firmness even though they are suppose to be the same. Same with triangles. Kamui's seem to stay with what they are labeled. If they say hard, they are hard. If they say soft, they are soft.

As for how they compare in general, Kamui mediums (to me) are a very hard/firm tip. But I am able to get a lot of english with these tips. I do find myself miscueing more often though trying to get max english. I use the old moori mediums(to me are an average firmness tip) and basically never miscue and am going to be very unhappy when I have to replace mine as I have yet to find another tip thats close. I might try the kamui soft and see.

And as mdavis228 said, its all in how it feels TO YOU. Every person is different.
 
Hi there,
About the miscue problems. There could be several factors that go unforeseen when experiencing a miscue. MAYBE NOT YOUR STROKE.

1. The chalk
2. Installation of the tip.

What we promise to you is the high porosity of the leather.

Now, how the chalk is holding onto the leather and or is the chalk glazing the tip. Your chalk might not have the bite. Why? Well, you could have China knockoff chalk and not know it... Or another brand of chalk that could be a little "off" (inconsistent)
If the tip is glazed then all you need to do is carefully roughen the tip and re-chalk it. We offer the Kamui Gator Grip

Your stroke is perfect. The tip may not be perfect. And here is why...

When an installer installs the tip what is he doing to the tip on the install?

Speed of the lathe - i.e. friction... Too much speed will change the microstructure of the glue - changing the way the tip will flex.

Burnishing of the sides of the tip... Now this is a different story every time I have a technical question phone call... The leather of the tip is made to have elasticity.... WELL! some tip fitters will burnish the sides of the tip with super glue!... That is the worst thing you can do to a tip that is made for FLEXING! - ANSWER: SPIT! little spit is all you need to shine up the sides.

So, before you blame the tip you gotta investigate other conditions. If you and some of your buddies are experiencing the same things wrong after getting a tip installed... It could be the installer, or the operator using bad chalk, or the tip needs a LITE scuffing.

We (KAMUI™) is never satisfied with the products we produce.

I hope this helps... If you have any questions or problems, just call.
 
Rob_jerrylee said:
Ok now you guys are going to think I've probably been living under a rock but what are milk duds ?????
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They are Elk Master tips that are soaked in milk, then pressed and dried. The result is a quite hard tip that also plays outstanding. They are very consistent, and you can jump and break with them if need be :grin:.

Joe
 
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
Hi there,
About the miscue problems. There could be several factors that go unforeseen when experiencing a miscue. MAYBE NOT YOUR STROKE.

1. The chalk
2. Installation of the tip.

What we promise to you is the high porosity of the leather.

Now, how the chalk is holding onto the leather and or is the chalk glazing the tip. Your chalk might not have the bite. Why? Well, you could have China knockoff chalk and not know it... Or another brand of chalk that could be a little "off" (inconsistent)
If the tip is glazed then all you need to do is carefully roughen the tip and re-chalk it. We offer the Kamui Gator Grip

Your stroke is perfect. The tip may not be perfect. And here is why...

When an installer installs the tip what is he doing to the tip on the install?

Speed of the lathe - i.e. friction... Too much speed will change the microstructure of the glue - changing the way the tip will flex.

Burnishing of the sides of the tip... Now this is a different story every time I have a technical question phone call... The leather of the tip is made to have elasticity.... WELL! some tip fitters will burnish the sides of the tip with super glue!... That is the worst thing you can do to a tip that is made for FLEXING! - ANSWER: SPIT! little spit is all you need to shine up the sides.

So, before you blame the tip you gotta investigate other conditions. If you and some of your buddies are experiencing the same things wrong after getting a tip installed... It could be the installer, or the operator using bad chalk, or the tip needs a LITE scuffing.

We (KAMUI™) is never satisfied with the products we produce.

I hope this helps... If you have any questions or problems, just call.
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Well, I appreciate your input, but Ive had two different cuemaker/repair guys put them on for me, and ive done a few myself also, and all had the same result. None of the tips were burnished with super glue, and Ive used blue master, and blue triangle chalk, again with the same results. When I dont miscue, the Kamui tips hit sweet, but after so many miscues, i got to where I was afraid to use much spin for fear of the dreaded miscue. Im not arguing with you or anyone else, Im just stating my experiences. It could just be that they are not for me, or maybe my game just isnt suited to those tips, but Ive spent quite a bit of cash trying to use them, and in the end, all of em got cut off and replaced with something else.

Joe
 
snipershot said:
I've tried the kamui soft, medium, black medium, and black hard, and they all have one thing in common: they will miscue like a mofo! I had a bunch of folks try and tell me it was my fault, my stroke sucked, I was using too much english, etc. Then I switched to milk duds, and ta da! Very very few miscues. Same bad stroke, still using too much english, but amazingly near zero miscues, unless I do something stupid like try use w and a half tips of spin, lol. Its not just me either, there are a couple local guys that had the exact same experience. Good luck in whatever you decide bud.


Joe
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Try using it with Brunswick chalk.
 
snipershot said:
Well, I appreciate your input, but Ive had two different cuemaker/repair guys put them on for me, and ive done a few myself also, and all had the same result. None of the tips were burnished with super glue, and Ive used blue master, and blue triangle chalk, again with the same results. When I dont miscue, the Kamui tips hit sweet, but after so many miscues, i got to where I was afraid to use much spin for fear of the dreaded miscue. Im not arguing with you or anyone else, Im just stating my experiences. It could just be that they are not for me, or maybe my game just isnt suited to those tips, but Ive spent quite a bit of cash trying to use them, and in the end, all of em got cut off and replaced with something else.

Joe
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It might also be the temperature of the room. If it is too cold, Kamui tend to miss cue.
 
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