My Apology To Str8 Shots

JCIN

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I posted this in the original thread but I want it out in the open and easy to find as I know many people bow out of those long threads without finishing them.

I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:

1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.

2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.

3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.

4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.

5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.

6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.

Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.

7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.

I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.

I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.
 
I posted this in the original thread but I want it out in the open and easy to find as I know many people bow out of those long threads without finishing them.

I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:

1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.

2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.

3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.

4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.

5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.

6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.

Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.

7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.

I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.

I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.


I know what your saying, I was throwing rocks at them.as hard as I could.
Since no one wants to see a shit load of apology threads I will post mine here
Kimberly I apologize
 
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Another good internet forums fight dies a quiet death.

If this continues, AZBilliards.com might lose it's internet license. :D
 
I posted this in the original thread but I want it out in the open and easy to find as I know many people bow out of those long threads without finishing them.

I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:

1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.

2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.

3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.

4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.

5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.

6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.

Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.

7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.

I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.

I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.

you are a big man in more ways than one justin. :thumbup:

i have been wrong a time or 2 on here. glad i was on the right side this time.

edit it add. every one in this thread apologizing was wrong but me.

aw hell...... i might as well add jam and neil in case they show up.

i do apologize if i left any other posters out. lol
 
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You da man JC.

I didn't chime in on the original thread but I had my thoughts, I was wrong as well it appears. Best of luck to Str8, this is a tough biz and they will need all the support they can get.
 
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I posted this in the original thread but I want it out in the open and easy to find as I know many people bow out of those long threads without finishing them.

I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:

1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.

2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.

3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.

4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.

5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.

6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.

Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.

7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.

I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.

I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.

Like you say big brother, if they are good people and they are doing good things for pool, then thats my kind of people!

I threw a few sliders in on STR8 also, very nice to hear they are great people.

MRS.Kim and husband, my apologizes go out to you good people!

I just wished that i knew more about you guys (STR8) and if so i would of never made my comments.

That just another lesson learned, one shouldnt say much when one doesnt know much about the one they are talking about!
 
I apologize, too, for thinking Str8 Shots wanted to stop John from playing in the TAR match and voicing my displeasure with that decision.

I based it on Kimberly's written words from her first post (as we all did), when she said John could not play in any match with Harriman.

As Justin says, that was apparently a misinterpretation of Str8 Shot's intent, based on further discussions he had with Kimberly, so I will accept that.
 
I also apologize. Classy move Justin for getting the facts then being a better man for explaining them. We all need good people doing good things for pool; especially the juniors !
 
Kudos to you big man and good luck to str8shots as well!!


One thing I learned from this situation is that TAR has some strong supporters!! Myself included!!:D

Many here will go to war for you man!!

Hopefully, we can see this rematch in the coming months...

JCIN for president!!!:)
 
All well and good, but whos streaming john vs danny ? Or is it still off the table because str8shots has a contract.

Fact is there still is no match and they are to blame.
 
All well and good, but whos streaming john vs danny ? Or is it still off the table because str8shots has a contract.

Fact is there still is no match and they are to blame.

this post should be in the " no match for harriman/schmidt " thread.

dontcha realize this is the apology thread.;)
 
All well and good, but whos streaming john vs danny ? Or is it still off the table because str8shots has a contract.

Fact is there still is no match and they are to blame.

I'm not as good a person as justin. I agree with this post. John is still censored and people are being treated like children. It's pool and gambling. Some people like the edginess and don't want it changed.
 
this post should be in the " no match for harriman/schmidt " thread.

dontcha realize this is the apology thread.;)

Correct!

Now iam going to break the rule too, sorry but i have to say this!

They wouldnt of played any way, people has been trying to match those 2 up for a long time now, Danny and John cant agree on anything (rules, cueball, races) so this match mite not ever happen!

So i would NOT blame it on STR8 !
 
Correct!

Now iam going to break the rule too, sorry but i have to say this!

They wouldnt of played any way, people has been trying to match those 2 up for a long time now, Danny and John cant agree on anything (rules, cueball, races) so this match mite not ever happen!

So i would NOT blame it on STR8 !

your comments in post 9 were GREAT !. :thumbup:

so considering that i will forgive you for breaking the rule in this post. ::D
 
All well and good, but whos streaming john vs danny ? Or is it still off the table because str8shots has a contract.

Fact is there still is no match and they are to blame.

Str8 Shots is not holding up the match. John is free to do what he wants with the understanding he is obligated to honor his contract regarding professional demeanor.

Str8 Shots is stopping nothing.
 
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