X Breaker :Jump Break Cue

I have been thinking about the purchase as well. I contacted Joe and he said that he only has two wrapless black models in stock. I am looking at the plain BEM or the Flaming BEM. I will see the beadsandbilliards.com reps at the BCA 8ball regionals in Lincoln City, OR the first week of March and will try it out then. I have also heard nothing but praise on this cue. Can't wait for the test.

steveL75121 said:

Wow, this is the Sweetest!!! Break Jump Cue Ever.I would like to know how everyone else feels about it that has one. I would recommend if you don't have one, Get it !! joerackem has them Too!!

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Can you please tell me what the jump cue portion of the stick weighs?

Thanks!

Flex

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steveL75121 said:

HI,

Here is the link. It has a spec page there.
http://www.xtremebilliard.com/page5.html

Thanks,
Steve

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The spec page does not have the weight of the jump cue portion of the stick.

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, the spec page doesn't say how much the shaft plus jump cue butt weigh together. Probably too much, unless the butt is hollowed out, especially considering the shaft weighs 4.5 ounces and up.

I've experimented with differing butt weights and there's a reason why Larry Nevel is shown jumping a ball that's only 1mm away: it's because he's only using the shaft with no butt. With the butt, he'd probably need more room. And with the shaft alone, the minimum length of 40 inches is not there. So, no go.

If someone who has the X-breaker can tell me what the shaft with the jump portion of the butt weigh together, I'd be most appreciative.

Flex

Hey, thanks for the referral!!

I noticed you copied my sig line...

Flex said:

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, the spec page doesn't say how much the shaft plus jump cue butt weigh together. Probably too much, unless the butt is hollowed out, especially considering the shaft weighs 4.5 ounces and up.

I've experimented with differing butt weights and there's a reason why Larry Nevel is shown jumping a ball that's only 1mm away: it's because he's only using the shaft with no butt. With the butt, he'd probably need more room. And with the shaft alone, the minimum length of 40 inches is not there. So, no go.

If someone who has the X-breaker can tell me what the shaft with the jump portion of the butt weigh together, I'd be most appreciative.

Flex

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Mine weighs 9.8 ounces

I have an X Breaker and I could not be happier with it. It breaks a ton and jumps better than anything else I have used. It puts the frog to shame!

Jack Justis said:

Mine weighs 9.8 ounces

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Way too heavy for me, for many shots anyway. Oh, It's powerful, I'm certain of that. That weight ensures it will hit strong.

Whatever the X-breaker website says about phenolic tips being obsolete, the canvas-phenolic "Magnum High Impact jump cue tips" I got on ebay work just fine for me.

I have them on two shafts I use for jumping. Both shafts have had their ferrules sawed off and tips installed. Quarter radius. The butts that I made come from a 3/4" hardwood dowel that has been turned down. One of them I slimmed down quite a bit, to make it as light as possible. It probably weighs, with the shaft, about 5 ounces. Why so light? To help it jump balls that are very close. It's almost as easy as jumping with the shaft alone, and easily jumps balls less than a chalk's distance away. It also is not very powerful, so it's easier to keep the cue ball on the table when jumping near a rail. The heavier butt with shaft probably weighs about 7 ounces, and will jump balls that are 3 diamonds away without much effort.

If I put another heavier butt on the shaft, it smacks the cue ball mighty strong and shoots but there is a distinct risk of bouncing the cue ball off the table. It works well for most jumps however, just have to be more careful with it.

I think that if a jump cue maker were to offer butts of different weights it would help a lot of players.

While I've never used an X-breaker, I've used the Sledgehammer and the Fury J/B. I think of those two that the Fury is superior.

Flex

When my Xtreme jump cue is ready, then I will ask Larry to make the same shot with the full jump cue, and if he allows me, I would post a video on my site for all to watch.

The reason why I dont want to build a very light jump cue for the X Breaker is because jumping with a very light jump cue is like flying a paper airplane, it is easy to make the ball jump but difficult to control the direction. Other than the hardness of the tip and the weight, the balance is also very important for a good jump cue.

We emphasis on control more than anything else and I think that is the biggest benefit of the X Breaker. We try our best to build a cue which helps the ball to stay in the middle of the table with the break, and to fly straight in the air with the jump.

We believe it is important to have a bit of weight to make it easier for the players to control their jump. With the Xtreme tip you really do not need to hit the cue ball hard at all to jump so all you need is a very short swing, this also helps to keep the ball flying straighter.

Anyway, with the present weight, most players do not have problem jumping one ball apart and even one chalk apart. Anything less than one ball is really not realistic in a real tournament condition. Well, that is until the debut of my new Xtreme jumper.

Richard

nipponbilliards said:

When my Xtreme jump cue is ready, then I will ask Larry to make the same shot with the full jump cue, and post a video on my site.

The reason why I dont want to build a very light jump cue for the X Breaker is because it is like flying a paper airplane, it is easy to make the ball jump but difficult to control the direction. Other than the hardness of the tip and the weight, the balance is also very important for a good jump cue.

We emphasis on control more than anything else and I think that is the biggest benefit of the X Breaker. We try our best to build a cue which helps the ball to stay in the middle of the table with the break, and to fly straight in the air with the jump.

We believe it is important to have a bit of weight to make it easier for the players to control their jump. With the Xtreme tip you really do not need to hit the cue ball hard at all to jump so all you need is a very short swing, this also helps to keep the ball flying straighter.

Anyway, with the present weight, most players do not have problem jumping one ball apart and even one chalk apart. Anything less than one ball is really not realistic in a real tournament condition. Well, that is until the debut of my new Xtreme jumper.

Richard

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Well Richard, if you can send me one to review, I'd be happy to be the official AZB test person. I have become pretty proficient with a Sledgehammer and would be curious to see if you could offer a stellar replacement that everyone has to have.

1pRoscoe said:

Well Richard, if you can send me one to review, I'd be happy to be the official AZB test person. I have become pretty proficient with a Sledgehammer and would be curious to see if you could offer a stellar replacement that everyone has to have.

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Well, Joe Nielsen still have some in stock I believe.

Richard

nipponbilliards said:

Well, Joe Nielsen still have some in stock I believe.

Richard

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Ooooohhhh........ Good response, just not the one I was looking for....

hi, Richard

should I expect x-breaker 2 coming soon? I've heard many good comments about it but just little worry about the rings(not so prefect?! ) .. cannot wait for x2

sasman said:

hi, Richard

should I expect x-breaker 2 coming soon? I've heard many good comments about it but just little worry about the rings(not so prefect?! ) .. cannot wait for x2

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I have the midnite black-no wrap-Rings are perfect!!

sasman said:

hi, Richard

should I expect x-breaker 2 coming soon? I've heard many good comments about it but just little worry about the rings(not so prefect?! ) .. cannot wait for x2

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Thank you for your interest.

I don't know who started this thing about the rings. It happened in winter when the temperature was very drastic, it happened only on a very small number of cues, and the same thing also happened on other custom cues.

For example, I am not trying to knock their product, this is a well known fact: the finish on the Bk was so bad they had to pull the line out for a long time, and they did not even have any metal rings!

I just cannot put myself to build something which compromise beauty and style with cost, so I am reluctant to use a black plastic ring with a yellow sticker on the joint collar.

I have tried to cut the rings smaller than the white phenolic so it should not move as much. Would you rather have a black ring with a yellow sticker on the joint? I am just joking.

I am working on all aspects of my cues and making improvement as we speak. I offer life time warranty on my cue.

Even though I am much smaller than big companies like Predator for now, I am sure all my customers can vouch that we offer much better warranty, more prompt respond, than the big companies. We really try to make sure our customers are happy and proud of their X Breakers even if it means we are taking a lose.

Unlike some big companies which manufacture their cues and shafts overseas and sell thousands of them per month without any warranty on warpage or on the quality of the wood, if you buy a X Breaker and you are not happy, you can always contact me and I will take care of you.

Our dealers have offered a promotional discount for two months before Christmas on the X Breaker, but some of the folks who wanted to wait did not take advantage of the discount and it has gone back up to $350. Now, they are asking why it is more expensive.

I hope you will take advantage of the price with free shipping offered by some of my dealers (beads and billiards, and Joe Nielsen) before it is too late. I will honor my warranty the exact same way no matter how much you paid for your X Breaker. It is all written on my site.

I do not intend to build anything called X Breaker 2 or X 2. But say if we ever come up with a newer generation, and it is more expensive. You need a replacement for whatever problem(not a result of abuse) you have with the first generation X Breaker, you ship us your used X Breaker, you will get a brand new second generation X Breaker shipped to you via FedEx overnight for free. Why would you want to wait longer and pay more when you can have it now?

Richard

nipponbilliards said:

Thank you for your interest.

I don't know who started this thing about the rings. It happened in winter when the temperature was very drastic, it happened only on a very small number of cues, and the same thing also happened on other custom cues.

For example, I am not trying to knock their product, this is a well known fact: the finish on the Bk was so bad they had to pull the line out for a long time, and they did not even have any metal rings!

I just cannot put myself to build something which compromise beauty and style with cost, so I am reluctant to use a black plastic ring with a yellow sticker on the joint collar.

I have tried to cut the rings smaller than the white phenolic so it should not move as much. Would you rather have a black ring with a yellow sticker on the joint? I am just joking.

I am working on all aspects of my cues and making improvement as we speak. I offer life time warranty on my cue.

Even though I am much smaller than big companies like Predator for now, I am sure all my customers can vouch that we offer much better warranty, more prompt respond, than the big companies. We really try to make sure our customers are happy and proud of their X Breakers even if it means we are taking a lose.

Unlike some big companies which manufacture their cues and shafts overseas and sell thousands of them per month without any warranty on warpage or on the quality of the wood, if you buy a X Breaker and you are not happy, you can always contact me and I will take care of you.

Our dealers have offered a promotional discount for two months before Christmas on the X Breaker, but some of the folks who wanted to wait did not take advantage of the discount and it has gone back up to $350. Now, they are asking why it is more expensive.

I hope you will take advantage of the price with free shipping offered by some of my dealers (beads and billiards, and Joe Nielsen) before it is too late. I will honor my warranty the exact same way no matter how much you paid for your X Breaker. It is all written on my site.

I do not intend to build anything called X Breaker 2 or X 2. But say if we ever come up with a newer generation, and it is more expensive. You need a replacement for whatever problem(not a result of abuse) you have with the first generation X Breaker, you ship us your used X Breaker, you will get a brand new second generation X Breaker shipped to you via FedEx overnight for free. Why would you want to wait longer and pay more when you can have it now?
Richard

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can I send my power break to you and have a X breaker back?? I sure will take care the overnite shipping~...

just kidding that's a really good response from a nice person who stand behind his products.. I think i will get me one X breaker sooooon~

sasman

sasman said:

can I send my power break to you and have a X breaker back?? I sure will take care the overnite shipping~...

just kidding that's a really good response from a nice person who stand behind his products.. I think i will get me one X breaker sooooon~

sasman

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Thank you for your compliment.

Speaking of Mezz, I probably should not be saying this in public, but I actually really like what they are doing with their products.

They produce very well made products. Not only that, they are always trying to come up with some original and creative ideas. It costs a lot of money and effort to do R&D, it is also risky becasue it may not pay off. It is easier to just copy a successful product to make a quick buck.

Since we are a company trying to invent rather than to copy, we can relate to the hardship and the risk associated with such an approach.

I know in a way they are our competition but I can't help to command them for their professional attitude and business ethnics. I have a lot of respect for this company.

Richard

PS, but even then, I will not take the PB on a trade, sorry...

Finally getting the hang of it.

It takes so much less effort to do jump shots with the X-Breaker that it took me quite a while to adjust. At first I was hitting the object ball on the fly. Then for a short period of time I was under hitting and caught the top of some balls I was trying to jump. Now I've got a handle on how hard to hit. Because of the grip the X-Breaker gets on the cue ball I also have to be a little more careful with where I hit the cue ball. If I'm not careful I can get some unwanted english upon landing.

I just can't believe how easy it is to jump with this cue stick. I watch other people play jump shots and they are hitting hard. Like WAM! They are getting the cue ball over the ball they want to jump but the cue has so much force going on that it can be flying all over, off the table, etc. I know that some of this is that they are not holding there jump cue with light enough grip but still it makes me so confident that I can jump hitting with so much less force than others.

One sort of funny thing that has happened.
No matter what jump cue you have, nobody wants to play a jump shot. However, before I had the X-Breaker, if I had to play a jump shot I preferred it to have some length to it. Cue ball hopefully at least a diamond away from the ball I'd be jumping and object ball hopefully two diamonds away from the ball I'd be jumping. Now with the X-Breaker it has almost reversed itself. I prefer the cue ball to be a little closer to the ball I'm jumping so that I can use a soft hit (comparatively) knowing I'll get over the ball and the cue will get to the table surface and start to roll. On the longer jumps I'm still having to hit easier that other cues I've tried but you are hitting hard enough that you still have to deal with the cue ball still bouncing later in the shot.