Ed Wheat...lets get it on...

shankster8 said:
Cuebaca, I'm sorry, you're the one that should issue challenges to Mr. Wheat. S'cuse if I snicker!

Cool, I challenge him not to make any more libelous posts about any pro players that could possibly jeopardize their sponsorships. No make that no libelous posts about anyone. I challenge you not to ride Eddie's nuts anymore. I challenge myself to ignore trolls on AZ. S'cuse me while I go play pool instead of wasting my night arguing on the interweb.
 
By the way, Shankster, you seem to be implying that people should be ashamed of themselves if they are out of shape, or that that makes them worthless human beings somehow. I'm in decent shape, no Mr. America or anything, but on behalf of anyone here who is in poor health or shape, you should be ashamed of yourself for being so shallow.
 
I have hit one of Eddie's cues and they are just like every other cuemaker who makes a decent cue...nothing special or extraordinary.

Try a Sugartree if you want something to write home about.

As far as reaching Eddie, good luck with that one, gotta better odds hitting the lotto or finding the "wheres the beef?" lady's gravesite.

Roller
 
shankster8 said:
Cuebaca, nice to see you're still paying close attention to Ed Wheat threads; many of us can now relax! The truth hurts, don't it/?????????????????

Poolhustler, I'm sorry, but I don't recall where you fit into all this. I just got home from a long day and expected serious flames and no rep. I am surprised! I don't wish to reread ten or twenty pages of posts to discern your intent, so I'll just shoot from the hip, and suggest you challenge Eddie Wheat to a sit up contest, or pull ups, or a foot race, or an arm wrestling contest - or - - - how 'bout a game of pool!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe challenge him to a cuemaking contest!!!! Hope your panties don't get in a bunch like you think mine are. I believe my problem is I spent 17 years in the Alaska bush prior to returning to SoCal. Up there the rules are different and five men don't gang up on one!

Shankster........I have not, in any way, bashed Eddie. You come on here and start spuouting off about things that don't directly involve you either.

I was simply implying that you are wound a little tight over the issue. Do you have a vested interest in Mr. Wheats activities?? Didn't think so......

No sweat off my balls either way.......

Russ.....
 
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One more question, why would I want to challenge Eddie to any kind of contest??

Are we back on the 5th grade play ground again??

Russ...
 
shankster8 said:
so I'll just shoot from the hip, and suggest you challenge Eddie Wheat to a sit up contest, or pull ups, or a foot race, or an arm wrestling contest - or - - - how 'bout a game of pool!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe challenge him to a cuemaking contest!!!!

I would like to personally challenge Mr. Wheat to a foot race. I will run anywhere in Minnesota and it has to be in January sometime. I will bet whatever he would like to bet, up to $90. I might even play him some $10 sets of nineball, but may need some weight, to make it more even. Mr. Wheat can supply me with his number, and I will call him collect to set up all the details. If he doesn't accept, then I think I have the right to call him a chicken for backing down.
 
poolhustler said:
Shankster........I have not, in any way, bashed Eddie. You come on here and start spuouting off about things that don't directly involve you either.

I was simply implying that you are wound a little tight over the issue. Do you have a vested interest in Mr. Wheats activities?? Didn't think so......

No sweat off my balls either way.......

Russ.....

Russ, you're a sweetie, for looking out for us, but you're so insincere. I just read your new thread over in the wanted/for sale section ("Question about Wheat Cues") Some forum members replied asking you for further info but you've neglected to answer. Apparently you've run back into to hiding after inaccurately insinuating that Wheat Cues are made in China.

Truly, I wish to thank you for validating the points I tried to make about you and your nuthanger group. I honestly believe your collective, disingenuous, anti-Wheat activities will help Mr. Wheat from now on. I really don't think reasonable people will easily forget those who make willfull, inaccurate statements about others, like you have done.

Do you believe that anyone will take you seriously again - what a joke!!! You have perfectly labeled yourself as an insincere, obnoxious little heckler. Congrats!!
 
Soylent Green Is PEOPLE.....people

shankster8 said:
Geese, several of you guys continue to relentlessly attach Eddie Wheat, though I cannot discover what he has done wrong


We are NOT Geese, we are human beans.... and we don't attach anyone (at least, most of us don't.....I think Varney attaches people)

Doug
(although CocoboloCowboy may have a little goose in him)
 
Smorgass Bored said:
We are NOT Geese, we are human beans.... and we don't attach anyone (at least, most of us don't.....I think Varney attaches people)

Doug
(although CocoboloCowboy may have a little goose in him)

Thanks for the correction, Smorgas Bored - and the laugh!!
 
Sorry for not responding sooner.... I had other obligations to tend to !

Thunderball said:
I need two things:
An EW cue and a test group.

(I had this idea long ago with a different maker in mind,but I was quite new to the forum)

Ed,...build a player.Hit the average specs ect.Then ship it out to the real players on this forum.

10 players max with the tenth returning the cue to you.

Each to cover the shipping to the next man until it gets home...back to you for sale again.

No harm or foul and you will get the some players looking ....OR never looking again.

I'd like to make the list,but I don't have too....

I suspect EW will be game..I just need nine others to pay shipping cost to move it on.And I need Ed to have some faith in his work as well as the members here to return the cue.




Thanks, For your interest but I don't think you fully understand the exact aspect of custom cuemaking I specialize in and offer in this industry, so please bare with me here....

Let's use a NASCAR analogy as an example in hopes this will clarify any misconceptions you and fellow AZr's are having with my custom tailoring process that I market myself on...

If you take the number one ranked driver who is used to the handling and performance of his tweaked up customized car that has been geared 100% to his specifications and wins consistantly with it, and put him in... let's say, the 4th ranked drivers car, although visibly they are both great looking cars and are pretty equal as far as a general glance is concerened... the #1 ranked driver may not like the way the 4th ranked car feels or drives at all and not be comfortable in the least and not even come close to winning the race... as well as the #4 ranked driver may feel exactly the same way about the #1 driver's car and finish even worse !

This obvious reason is becasue each car has been tuned up to the driver's custom specifications and is tweaked to their exact likeness which compliments his unique style of driving and I'm sure the other professional NASCAR's cars drive just as well but it's not going to feel or handle the same as a your own custom tweaked car !

This line of thinking is exactly what I do in relation to the player and the pool cue... I set-up the cue to the players custom specifications so they are completely comfortable and do NOT have to adjust to it since it's already been adjusted to them, this gives them complete comfortability and total control over the dedicated balance points and overallall consistant performance....

Let take the "tip" for instance... "what's the first thing a player does when he gets a new cue ? "He changes the tip to one of his own preference and standards the compliments his/her style of play" this is the common first step in customizing their cue and more times than not... the only step they are aware of...

I simply take that a few steps further and customize the ENTIRE cue when designing and building it !

This isn't a new concept with any of the other sports as far as "custom fitting" goes and some cuemakers have touched base on this area in cue designs, however I take it much further and create an entire custom tailoring process that not only compliments every aspect of the players necessity and expectation from his equipment it's also geared up to "hit", "play", and "feel" exactly the way the customer wants and needs it too.....

For me to build a "demo" cue for 10 players to experiment with, would be counter-productive for all of us due to the fact that at the most... all of you would be able to judge me on, is the construction and asthetics.... playability, hit and feel would be at most be acceptable by 2 out of the 10 testers at best, mabey fit 1 out of the 10 good but not well and this is a complete shot in the dark becasue I build the cues longer if necessary determined by how long your arm spand and stroke range combined length are... so the cue will feel uncomfortable or have an unfavorable hit and playability to the other 8 or 9 testers, so that means I am opening myself up to an unfair review on my work due to the obvious unique individualy custom tailoring processes....

I really appreciate your offer and think that is more than fair by all means....and if I was just a general cuemaker with avg. balance points and avg. lengths then I would say hell yes, but considering the obvious differences, there is no way I can accommodate 10 different people with 10 different arm spands, stroke ranges and styles with just 1 cue for an accurate and fair overall evaluation of my work.

For those of you who don't care or approve or like what I have to offer than there are hundreds of production cues that will probably feel great and make you very happy... so by all means help yourself ! but for the "players" whether you are a beginner to a professional, I custom build and tailor cues to YOUR specific and unique needs and can GUARANTEE a 25% overall performance increase in your game or your money back !

I am for real, I take my work work very seriously and those who know me personally and have a custom tailored cue built by me can attest that I am NOT joking about what I can deliver !

Custom fitting is a proven concept that has been applied to many other mainstream sports.. either it makes since or it doesn't.... and for those of you who are interested in what I have to offer, I am available most of the time to answer ALL of your questions... for those of you who aren't and do NOT approve of me, then please disregard and pay no attention to my threads, posts and adverstising regarding "Wheat Cues".

With all this being said, I hope fellow Azr's will understand the neccesity and frequency of my advertising threads, I am only plugging what I have to offer and how affordable it is for everyone who needs performance tools at an awesone price... and once I become solidified in this market then my customers will advertise for me, as most of you point out, but until then, I have to work very hard at putting myself on the map becasue if it wasn't for these threads 99% of you fellow AZ'rs wouldn't know who the heck or what "Wheat Cues" is all about !

Thanks for your interest and offer once again, it's greatly appreciated and I do appologize to you if you feel I wasted your time with this generous proposition !




Very Sincerely, Eddie Wheat 321-631-1827
 
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WheatCues said:
With all this being said, I hope fellow Azr's will understand the neccesity and frequency of my advertising threads, I am only pluggin what I have to offer and how affordable it is for everyone who needs performance tools at an awesone price... once I become solidified then my customers will advertise for meas most of you point out, but until then I have to work very hard at putting myself on the map becasue if it wasn't for these threads 99% of you fellow AZ'rs wouldn't know who the heck or what "Wheat Cues" is all about !

You are right that your advertising methods do get your name out there to the AZer's. However, with the frequency and boasting that you do, not all the attention is good. I am sure you make a fine cue and are really a nice guy, but advertising the way you do is a little to much sometimes, I think. I am just stating what many others have stated before. This is in no way meant to be negative toward you as a cuemaker or personally, but like others have said, actions speak louder then words. Get your cues in the hands of some professial players and others, and let your cues do the talking for you. You mention that they will speak for themselves-let them do that. We all know you are out here making cues and make them tailored to the player. I don't really see the need to keep on advertising like you do- we have all seen you advertise over and over. After a while, it just gets a little old. Good luck to you!
You might not realize just how important your public persona affects you as a business man. There are a few cuemakers out there who I would not want to support, because they come of as arrogant or jerks. No matter how good their cues are, I would rather give my business to someone else, who is more professional and who I have heard good things about, from other people. I am not saying you are one of these cuemakers, but hearing someone else talk about you cues means much more to me then hearing here, over and over, talk about how great your cues are.
Btw, I think the idea of making a cue for others to try out is a great idea. Of course, it wouldn't be customized to each person, but they would still get the overall look and feel of your cues.
 
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rossaroni said:
You are right that your advertising methods do get your name out there to the AZer's. However, with the frequency and boasting that you do, not all the attention is good. I am sure you make a fine cue and are really a nice guy, but advertising the way you do is a little to much sometimes, I think. I am just stating what many others have stated before. This is in no way meant to be negative toward you as a cuemaker or personally, but like others have said, actions speak louder then words. Get your cues in the hands of some professial players and others, and let your cues do the talking for you. You mention that they will speak for themselves-let them do that. We all know you are out here making cues and make them tailored to the player. I don't really see the need to keep on advertising like you do- we have all seen you advertise over and over. After a while, it just gets a little old. Good luck to you!
You might not realize just how important your public persona affects you as a business man. There are a few cuemakers out there who I would not want to support, because they come of as arrogant or jerks. No matter how good their cues are, I would rather give my business to someone else, who is more professional and who I have heard good things about, from other people. I am not saying you are one of these cuemakers, but hearing someone else talk about you cues means much more to me then hearing here, over and over, talk about how great your cues are.
Btw, I think the idea of making a cue for others to try out is a great idea. Of course, it wouldn't be customized to each person, but they would still get the overall look and feel of your cues.

I appreciate yor advice and although I HAVE had another professional player give her testimony about how great my cue plays to her... and after fellow azr's harrassing me to get her to comment, and when she did say something "positive" it was null and void becasue I sponsor her and that was a given according to the general response from the "clowns" !

I just can't win.... if it the review was "negative" you can be sure that it would have be acceptable viable info....and would still be referenced to this minute !

I have to do what is neccesary to market myself and even though most of you may not agree with my methods, I have bills to pay and the " wheatcues more bang for the buck " thread alone caused my phone to ring 8 times and recieved me 7 emails regarding cue orders and questions in the first 12hrs....

So call it what "you" want but I call it positive feedback and rewarded effort !

So unless someone wants to invest or financially back my endeavor than I have to do what is neccesary within legal means to support myself in this tough market !

And once again I am more eager than all of you to see my cues in my customer's hands but I'm NOT going to compromise the quality of my work just becasue someone is ancy to get their cue... I have done that before and I DON'T like to do that at all becasue it's not fair to either one of us and this was due to a person being relocated to another country regarding military reassignment... and even though the customer was very happy with my work..... I WASN'T !

And it's pretty obvious I'm not doing this soley for the money or I would charge a little more !





Very Sincerely, Eddie WHeat
 
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OK, let's get to the heart of things!

WheatCues said:
. . . bare with me here....
Very Sincerely, Eddie Wheat 321-631-1827

Eddie, not even a spell checker helps you sometimes! It's spelled B-E-A-R :grin: :grin-square: :grin:

Hu
 
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Eddie,

I don't quite follow you on this. Say, if I bought a used custum made cue (by any cue maker), would I then not be able to pass judgement on the cue because it was built for someone else?

Sure, we all play with different tips, weight etc., but judging a cue's hit, playability and such surely wouldn't be a problem for these guys who have played with 100s of cues. They are well aware that a Moori tip plays differently from an Everest and not hold that against anyone.

Just my opinion, I wish you all the best in your endeavors,
J
 
WheatCues said:
For me to build a "demo" cue for 10 players to experiment with, would be counter-productive for all of us due to the fact that at the most... all of you would be able to judge me on, is the construction and asthetics.... playability, hit and feel would be at most be acceptable by 2 out of the 10 testers at best, mabey fit 1 out of the 10 good but not well and this is a complete shot in the dark becasue I build the cues longer if necessary determined by how long your arm spand and stroke range combined length are... so the cue will feel uncomfortable or have an unfavorable hit and playability to the other 8 or 9 testers, so that means I am opening myself up to an unfair review on my work due to the obvious unique individualy custom tailoring processes....

i am one who believes there is such a thing as a "standard" great hitting cue regardless of the argument that "hit is subjective".....i personally don't believe that there are that many different ways a specific cue will feel to the majority of individuals and believe that the discussion would only make a subjective argument among players who really KNOW what a good hitting cue is supposed to "feel" like and perform. i'm not a huge fan of the "around the horn" style of testing, but as long as it's conducted by those who know what they're talking about then testing a standard 58" cue using your standard method of construction, shaft taper, joint, ferrules, tip etc..... should not have a major affect to the "standard" play ability of the cues you make "custom tailored" or not and will provide a good "bench" for how any cue you build will most likely perform imo.........

skins ------------ likes the TV show Around The Horn.......:)
 
ShootingArts said:
Wheat cue owners, any of you notice a fishy smell???

Eddie, not even a spell checker helps you sometimes! It's spelled B-E-A-R :grin: :grin-square: :grin:

Hu


.. Mabey !
 
shankster8 said:
Russ, you're a sweetie, for looking out for us, but you're so insincere. I just read your new thread over in the wanted/for sale section ("Question about Wheat Cues") Some forum members replied asking you for further info but you've neglected to answer. Apparently you've run back into to hiding after inaccurately insinuating that Wheat Cues are made in China.

Truly, I wish to thank you for validating the points I tried to make about you and your nuthanger group. I honestly believe your collective, disingenuous, anti-Wheat activities will help Mr. Wheat from now on. I really don't think reasonable people will easily forget those who make willfull, inaccurate statements about others, like you have done.

Do you believe that anyone will take you seriously again - what a joke!!! You have perfectly labeled yourself as an insincere, obnoxious little heckler. Congrats!!

In case you haven't noticed, I have not bashed Ed or his cues.

I was simply wondering what vested interest that you have in him.

The thread in the for sale section was a joke, a little levity, humor.....
it appears that your panties are wound tooooo tight and can't understand a joke when you see one.

All these posts, regardless of intent, will ony help to get Ed's name out there, so why the fuss??

As far as people taking me seriously?? I dont' and never will have a problem with that. And as far as the name calling that you are so good at, maybe you should leave that on the play ground where it belongs.

Sincerely,

Russ.....
 
And.......... I believe that you are in LA.

If so, I would be more than happy to play a little 9 ball with you sometime.

Let me know!!

:smile:


Russ....
 
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