[billiardshot]

You hear about Boston 'Shorty', Harold Worst, even D. Matlock. But have anyone see 'Champagne Eddie' Kelly playing 3 Cushion and how did he fair?

[fasteddief]

I first met Eddie K. when I was 16 or 17 in a poolroom in Balt. MD. The Pool room was Klein's,Eddie was the counterman and he also taught dancing lessons at a Authur Murry's dance studio. He was the best 3'c player in MD. The year I think was 1960. I know he is a friend of Eddie Robin. I would say ,his average was about a ONE. I think he won a tournament in 3'c on the west coast. Klein's was a very famous Poolroom in MD. The best players in the world played there,such as Greenleaf,Mosconi,Boston Shorty,Washington Rags. I was there when Eddie Kelly challenge Willy Mosconi to play 9 BALL and of course Willy declined.

[billiardshot]

In Eddie Robin's Winning One Pocket" there a picture of Eddie and Kelly, caption say Corner Pocket of America 1982 2nd place in 3C Tournament.

fastedief thank for added information in your post. Are you a 3C player?

[maldito]

A lot of good pocket players play/played good 3-c - the late Irving Crane , Dallas West, Efren Reyes - the late George Mikula NYC - a good pool player (300+ 14.1) played very good 3-c., to name a few.

[Drawman623]

CaromTV still has the match between Boston Shorty and Sang Lee available for sale. It is rough, but a rare sight! I would have loved to see Champaigne Ed Kelly play 3C. That would have been a sight.

[mr3cushion]

Sorry Eddie;
I have to disagree with my friend Eddie F about Eddie K, in 1973 Eddie K was in Chicago with Pancho from NYC, they hung around an all night pool room in Cicero, in there, they had 2 GC billiard tables. Eddie got trapped by a couple of Spanish players playing 3C. When I heard He was in town, I went there a couple of nights later, Pancho woudn't let Him play Me even, so I gave Him 10 pts to 50, for $300.00 a game, wasn't close, then 15 to 50, same result, they pulled up, lucky to get the second barrel. I'd have to say Eddie K was a 700 player at best, made alot of pool shots, actually, He played a little better than Pancho. Boston Shorty could of gave Eddie K the same spot at that time.
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"

[mbvl]

Originally Posted by mr3cushion

Sorry Eddie;
I have to disagree with my friend Eddie F about Eddie K, in 1973 Eddie K was in Chicago with Pancho from NYC, they hung around an all night pool room in Cicero, in there, they had 2 GC billiard tables. Eddie got trapped by a couple of Spanish players playing 3C. When I heard He was in town, I went there a couple of nights later, Pancho woudn't let Him play Me even, so I gave Him 10 pts to 50, for $300.00 a game, wasn't close, then 15 to 50, same result, they pulled up, lucky to get the second barrel. I'd have to say Eddie K was a 700 player at best, made alot of pool shots, actually, He played a little better than Pancho. Boston Shorty could of gave Eddie K the same spot at that time.
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I'm curious about how good Pancho really was. I played him several times in the early 90's at Chris's and I would put him at around .700. But one time at Chris's I played him in a tournament. Bill might remember it. It was right after they got the Verhoevens (1993?). After the flights there was a 16 man single elimination final. Bill played Mazin in the first round and I drew Pancho. He made everything averaging well over 1.000.

Mark

[billiardshot]

Mark any thread or post I do can be highjack. Because it all about 3C history. Cause my next question would be about E.Reyes playing a 3C tournament at Chris in Mid '80 placing 5th or 6th?