Flex said:Just used this excellent feature to zap all the posts by an offensive poster! What a relief!
I put onepockettool on my ignore list after that stupid Bush comment/...NYC cue dude said:flex, i too have just found this quite wonderful, liberating sensation, known as the "ignore list". I excersise this "button" in my everyday life, why shouldn't I reap it's benifits in cyberspace as well?
I agree, what a relief. I have been so bothered by the opinions, statements, and content of one particular poster, I had to let him go. This person doesn't belong in my "space", and now, poof, he's gone.
rg
chefjeff said:I have an infected tooth right now and I'm on pain meds. But I'm not going to ignore the tooth forever and pretend it doesn't exist. I'm getting a root canal Tuesday and then I'm off the meds.
Jeff Livingston
Flex said:Interesting comment, Jeff.
Ignoring a dangerous medical condition can cost you your life; ignoring someone obnoxious who you cannot avoid can help you keep your composure, your job, your family life, your interests and your sanity as well.
chefjeff said:I have an infected tooth right now and I'm on pain meds. But I'm not going to ignore the tooth forever and pretend it doesn't exist. I'm getting a root canal Tuesday and then I'm off the meds.
Jeff Livingston
GTeye said:Some people solely come online to forums and communities to instigate and start trouble. The fact that AZBilliards has a system where members are approved by hand as opposed to an automatic reply/click system is proof of that fact. There is no reason someone should have to deal with someone they do not like in an online environment where they are there to enjoy themselves.
Imo, The ability to ignore someone at a table or pool room actually would be a benefit because "Dealing" with them is exactly what the sharks want you to do. They want to get into your head and get you out of your game. Act like they don't exist and completely ignore them and your actually getting into their heads and effecting their game.
chefjeff said:"gnore" was probably the wrong word concerning my tooth. It's throbbing as I write. A better term would be "putting on the back burner." That way, I'm still stirring it once in a while, but focusing more on other things, like writing this reply.
My point is, concerning pool is, online, you can just simply choose "ignore," to alleviate a sharking problem; you do not have that choice at the pool table. And you will not have the experience of having solved the sharking problem here on AZ with Mr. H, to fall back on. Therefore, you are weaker at the table than you would be if you had just mentally dealt with Mr. H vs. taking the easy way out with the "ignore" button.
Make sense?
Jeff Livingston
Flex said:I agree with you, to an extent, Jeff. Online, someone who wants to ridicule and mock and name call and so on will just continue with the behavior until who knows what happens. Mr. Hakala managed to wear out his welcome chez moi with his tactics; at a certain point I could see it was useless trying to reason with him, so I put him on "Ignore."![]()
In "real life" in a pool room, one is not obliged to speak with people who like to make trouble. One time, in a money game situation, blatant sharking brought the early termination of the match. The consequence of that was that we don't speak with each other anymore, not after he called me some names I choose not to repeat. I don't need or want that sort of abuse. If he had been smarter I'd probably still be a fish on his line. No more.
During a tournament, the sort of behavior that occurs online is simply not tolerated. In one case, after a series of blatant shark attacks directed against me when I was on the hill and on the 9, after the match was over, I went to complain to the TD about it, and when the TD spoke with the offending player, that player erupted against the TD, and lied through his teeth, which the TD saw right through. What did the TD do? He awarded me the match, offered the offending player his money back, the player took his money, said he didn't think he would return, and the TD said fine, he didn't need or want players like him in the tourney anyway.
I tried to ignore the shark attacks when they occurred, didn't say anything to the guy, just went about my business of running out. Nevertheless I twice missed relatively easy shots on that same 9 ball while he unscrewed his cue right behind the pocket I was trying to pocket the 9 in. Does sharking work? Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Trying to block it all out as I did was not completely successful. When someone in a match situation decides to start a conversation with me, I'll listen for a moment and then ask him if we can play in silence. Works like a charm, usually. If he stands in my line of sight when I'm getting ready to go down on the shot, I'll politely ask him to move out of my line of sight. Works usually, too.
I've seen some pretty incredible things happen during matches, that almost ended up in fist fights. One fellow kicked over a trash can right when his opponent was on the money ball to win a match, right in the middle of his back stroke. Won't play with that guy, he's known as a maniac of sorts.
As Blackjack has said, it's important to know who to avoid in a pool hall....
Flex
chefjeff said:And that type of stuff will happen till the day you die. So, what to do about it?
Blocking it out doesn't work, imho. But integrating it honestly into my mind allows me to put the sharking in a place where I can better handle it...into a little sub-routine, if you will, that takes away the sharker's power and gives it to me. When I do that online, it is practice.
Life is marvelous,
Jeff Livingston
GTeye said:I've run online services my entire life and every one of them has had some form of an ignore list and usually the majority of the time the people who put down those who use the ignore lists are the very same people who are the ones on most peoples ignore lists.
This is an online forum, not real life and the ability to ignore or squelch someone is a added perk to an online world but it has nothing to do with ones ability to deal with it in real life. It just allows for people to have a more enjoyable experience in the online one.
Some people solely come online to forums and communities to instigate and start trouble. The fact that AZBilliards has a system where members are approved by hand as opposed to an automatic reply/click system is proof of that fact. There is no reason someone should have to deal with someone they do not like in an online environment where they are there to enjoy themselves.
Imo, The ability to ignore someone at a table or pool room actually would be a benefit because "Dealing" with them is exactly what the sharks want you to do. They want to get into your head and get you out of your game. Act like they don't exist and completely ignore them and your actually getting into their heads and effecting their game.
catscradle said:I agree with you to a cetain extent, but, as I stated in an earlier post, anybody who is offensive in this forum gets banned pretty quickly. Anybody that is left may be irritating at most, but not offensive. Besides it is pretty easy to look at the first couple of lines of a post and determining if you want to read on. I, in all honesty, think the use of the ignore list on this particular forum is unnecessary and redundant.
JMHO.
jjinfla said:I wish more people would use the ignore feature. Then I would still be able to read posts by FL and Harry.