Unplayed, Un-test hit?

Play a a few months with a cue. Put new tips on the shafts and then go over them with a Magic Eraser. Sell the cue as new.

Does this happen?

I would be more concerned about the rest of the cue.

As stated a car always has a few miles on it but when sold with low mileage and the brake pedal and steering wheel are worn something is wrong.
 
I was of the opinion and still am that new unhit is just that, After it is hit, it is used. If it has been chalked and played it is not new anymore. To me the price for something used is about 40% less than somthing "new" The stickler is that is was adverstised as absolutely new never hit a ball to that I say B.S.

I only purchased because it was advertised as absolutely new un-hit, never played.........
There is a difference in saying something is like new, or close to new. That is not absolutely new, to me there is anyway.

I didn't claim it was unhit, absolutely new, the seller did.
 
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you never told us what kind of cue it is.. i think that would determine the value most over if it has hit a few balls or not.. would a searing or a scruggs that was slightly used be worth 40% less? in my opinion they would not be..

what kind of cue is it, please show more pics.. thanks..
chris
 
That All Depends!?

ChrisOnline said:
you never told us what kind of cue it is.. i think that would determine the value most over if it has hit a few balls or not.. would a searing or a scruggs that was slightly used be worth 40% less? in my opinion they would not be..

what kind of cue is it, please show more pics.. thanks..
chris
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Jeez....I guess that would all depend on whether you were BUYING or SELLING :eek: :D ;)
 
Ken when you weren't satisfied with the Frey SP shaft I sold you I gave you a full refund, which is the way we should function here, satifaction or your money back, some people are pickier than others, also there may be different reasons for a purchase, if it is to resell in the future as new or to collect the customer may be way pickier than someone wanting a barbanger, or the customer may be picky period

See Hal's post in the cue gallery to make my point.

Also see xianmacx's post here, there is a faint smudge in the buttcap of his cue and he will send it back to the builder to remove the smudge before he sells it.

Hey Buck, in a week or two I should two Scruggs cues, will send you one to use till Mike is done with yours. I understand, I have one cue being repaired a new cue ordered from Mike, PM me your address....... I owe you one anyways so maybe this will help
 
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I agree with two sentiments here:

1) The difference between "no hits" and a few tests hits is not significant.

2) The seller should be honest in stating the condition of the cue, ie: say "Test hit only". If the seller states the cue has never been hit and that is clearly not the case, then it was misrepresented.

Just moments ago on eBay I saw someone selling a cell phone listed as "PERFECT CONDITION!" and then when reading the description, he showed a crack on the LCD screen that he said "didn't affect the usage of the LCD" and that he heard from Nokia you could get it replaced. LOL... that's the kind of seller we don't need more of.
 
On a more serious note

Panhdlce said:
Ken when you weren't satisfied with the Frey SP shaft I sold you I gave you a full refund, which is the way we should function here, satifaction or your money back, some people are pickier than others, also there may be different reasons for a purchase, if it is to resell in the future as new or to collect the customer may be way pickier than someone wanting a barbanger, or the customer may be picky period

See Hal's post in the cue gallery to make my point.

Also see xianmacx's post here, there is a faint smudge in the buttcap of his cue and he will send it back to the builder to remove the smudge before he sells it.

Hey Buck, in a week or two I should two Scruggs cues, will send you one to use till Mike is done with yours. I understand, I have one cue being repaired a new cue ordered from Mike, PM me your address....... I owe you one anyways so maybe this will help
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Hiya Phil, I was really trying to post a little humor with my previous comments :rolleyes:

But, on a more serious note, I would agree with you that if I had sold you this cue and you were'nt happy based upon my description, etc. that a full refund would be the normal course and totally acceptable to me ;)

I Hope this deal works out for you....good rolls to ya :) !
 
Yup!

buck15 said:
i saw nothing on 2 of the 3 left unplayed. one did have a 3 on it. whatever that means. on another note. the shaft that was in my case that i usually carry did have residual chalk on it from the tubes. somewhat like what was in the picture. thanks. p.s how does that new scruggs you got hit?? i am still waiting for mine to be repaired. mike has to redo the wrap and refinish it. it sucks, i have no cue to play with that hits like that scruggs. love it.
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It was a T stamped over a S and it will disappear after 1 or two test hits and the cue in question is a Scruggs! This is done to all the cues and would be very hard almost not worth the effort to counterfit. So now you know how tell a absolute unplayed Scruggs cue every time!
Nick:)
 
I can't imagine Tim not test hitting his cues before they leave the shop. I bet he stamps them after he test hits them.
 
nick serdula said:
It was a T stamped over a S and it will disappear after 1 or two test hits and the cue in question is a Scruggs! This is done to all the cues and would be very hard almost not worth the effort to counterfit. So now you know how tell a absolute unplayed Scruggs cue every time!
Nick:)
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I just took delivery of 2 of timmys cues about 15 days ago, I just sold one but i looked at the other and did not see the mark you are talking about?but there is no blue or green tint . I guess it would just be a judgement call.I would call the guy and nicley talk to him and get his explanition. the cue looks good to me
 
I saw the cue today,

The tips are definately sanded down probably with a long curved tip file. And they appear to have had chalk bust in the leather,blue for sure!
Unhit no way. Phil has not hit a ball with the cue and plans to return it and I think he is not out of line here.
Both Phil and I have ordered and recieved new cues from Timi and Mike and we know new and unhit from experience. We both have bought cues from Timi directly more than once! $300 off brand new is pretty good. $300 off a hit cue is far less of a bargin.
Nick :)
 
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My 2 cents

IMHO, if you buy/trade/acquire a cue here, and it wasn't what you thought was advertised in a short amount of time, within 3 days, then you should be able to discuss with the seller your issues, and an agreement should be reached between the two parties. It could result in discount, extras, or just plain old refunds, but it should be discussed between both parties in a timely manner. Issues should be resolved quickly and in agreement with both parties, so that everybody is happy.

On another note, does anyone have a Scruggs test hit for 40% off new cost? PM me with payment details. I will take it!!!!!!:D

Michael
 
Panhdlce said:
I was of the opinion and still am that new unhit is just that, After it is hit, it is used. If it has been chalked and played it is not new anymore. To me the price for something used is about 40% less than somthing "new" The stickler is that is was adverstised as absolutely new never hit a ball to that I say B.S.

I only purchased because it was advertised as absolutely new un-hit, never played.........
There is a difference in saying something is like new, or close to new. That is not absolutely new, to me there is anyway.

I didn't claim it was unhit, absolutely new, the seller did.
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You feel the cue is perfect other than the tips shown in your photo's?

So if Tim Scruggs test hit your recently built "new" cue you would then consider it "used" or "test hit" now?? Guess you would get pissy and demand a 40% discount?? Geezzz get real:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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Dear Phil,

I got the cue from bushwhacker -Gary and he described the cue as brand new and unhit.

I just looked at the cue if it was straight and that was all.

I NEVER HIT A BALL with it.

I just don't appreciate the noise you did around the cue and my great reputation on Az.

You could have just sent the cue back to me and end of story.

I had some other ppl interested in the cue and once they figured you bought it they said I'd have it back in no time since they know you.

I don't blame you but you should just send it back.

Vass

I'll refund the funds as soon as I get the cue in condition I sent to you.

Vass
 
From the photos it actually looks unplayed. I saw one seller on here describe another cue as never been hit and the tip was worn down. These look good. Try buying directly from the cuemaker next time and then take a look at the tips.
 
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tips worn??

i saw what cue this was by vass post. i then looked at both of my new tim scruggs shafts that i had . the one that i ply with is a little taller than the one that is unhit. i also got it from bushwacker.you can believe it or not but it is true. . it then checked my other cue that was bought brand new from tim and shipped directley to me and both shafts are unplayed.the 2 tips are different heights, just like the ones pictured. also picked up a little chalk from the case as i stated in my ealier post. i think the cue is as described. jmo
 
I would buy from Bushwacker!

Every time I see anything Gary Nolan ( Bushwacker) is selling I have 100% confidence in his descriptions of his cues I like the Tim Scruggs titlist cue he sold Buck best!!!
Nick :)
 
i looked at a couple of my cues i got directly from the makers and no two tips are the same height and they are all test hit from the maker (just the way i would want them to be).

guy
 
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nick serdula said:
Every time I see anything Gary Nolan ( Bushwacker) is selling I have 100% confidence in his descriptions of his cues I like the Tim Scruggs titlist cue he sold Buck best!!!
Nick :)
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sorry nick, WRONG. he didn't sell me the titlist. he sold me my purple heart veneer cue.
 
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