Joe Tucker's Aiming System

Patrick Johnson

Fargo 1000 on VP4
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I got a chance to look at Joe Tucker's Aiming System over the past few weeks, and thought I'd share my impressions of it.

The materials for the system are two CDs and a spiral-bound workbook which work together to explain the system and guide you through a program of 24 practice drills to familiarize you with it. Joe himself is your teacher, guide and coach on the CDs, explaining and demonstrating the system in a clear and personable way with plenty of visual aids. Joe actually shoots each of the practice workouts with you, explaining how he makes (and sometimes misses) each shot and encouraging you to "stick with it" as he does. It's like having Joe as your personal trainer and workout partner, which adds real value to the package.

Joe's Aiming System is like Joe himself: straightforward, sensible and user friendly. It's an "index angle system" like some others we know of, dividing the OB and CB into a fixed number of index angles for easier memorization of aiming alignments, but it differs from other index angle systems in some important ways.

It asks you to memorize 9 evenly spaced index angles per quarter ball (for left cuts or right cuts), spaced 10 degrees (about 5mm or 1/5 inch) apart. This is more index angles than other systems so it's a little more work to memorize them, but if you can cope with that it pays off by reducing the number and size of adjustments needed for those pesky in-between shots. Joe acknowledges the in-between angles and suggests fractional angles between the 9 index angles for them, although the instructions and practice drills stick mostly to memorizing the 9 basic angles.

The two big operational differences between Joe's System and other index angle systems are:

1. There are no CB/OB overlaps to associate with cut angles in Joe's System - no "1/2 ball overlap = 30 degree cut" or anything like that. Instead Joe teaches you to match the OB contact point (found in the usual ways) with its corresponding CB contact point using matching numbered index points on both balls. Focusing on the contact points is a 3-dimensional visualization compared with the 2-dimensional visualization of focusing on CB/OB overlaps, which might suit some players better than others.

2. Joe's index angles are visualized in relation to the table's axes rather than to the CB/OB centerline. This means that a "#3 cut" isn't 3 clicks from a straight-on shot but rather 3 clicks from a cut parallel to the rail. It's just as geometrically accurate, but it's a non-traditional way of visualizing CB/OB alignments which might also suit some players better than others.

Pros and cons:

I like the realism of Joe's System, with its greater number of index angles, its clear acknowledgement of the in-between shots that require greater refinement of the system and its focus on drills to familiarize the shooter with the index angles. I also like the focus on contact points, which I believe is ultimately more accurate and more instructive than the "overlap" methods, although it may not be for everybody. I especially like Joe himself and the way he works right alongside the student to show exactly how the drills are done and gives tips and encouragement along the way.

I have mild misgivings about orienting the index angles to the table rather than to the CB/OB centerline, because it's a little less intuitive and maybe a little more prone to error. But I think even for those who find this disorienting it will be less and less a factor as the student becomes familiar with the system, and it has the potential advantage of identifying indexed shot angles that are the same for a given OB no matter where the CB is.

All in all, Joe Tucker's Aiming System is a geometrically correct and potentially very accurate way of indexing the CB and OB contact points so they can be matched up in a systematic, repeatable way. I recommend it for those who want to visualize contact points but could use some help doing it.

pj
chgo
 
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Good review, I would only take issue with your description of it as "index angles." As you noted, the system has nothing to do with recognizing or estimating angles. It is the same as the "equal opposite" system or using parallel lines to visualize the contact point, just with a new way of providing a reference to do it, which I think is an improvement.

I have trouble visualizing the contact point on the front of the CB, which of course is the difficult and crucial part of the system. But that should improve with practice.
 
Good stuff.

I took a look at Joe Tucker's "Thirty Shot Workout" video and the guy is an absolute machine. He missed only three of which were very, very tough shots.

I really liked his aiming techique in the video. Simple, intuitive, without a whole lot of over-intellectualization. I like the way he adjusts from the zero-to-zero contact points to find different contact points. This is always something I have naturally done. I call it "clicking." Now I can refine it and actually know what I'm doing.

Thanks.
 
Good review.
I have used this system as well and found it to be very useful.
There has been a lot of discussion on the forum about using "system's" versus "feel". What Joe's system did for me (and I do stress 'me') is give me a reliabe starting point to begin setting up for the shot and then letting my intuitive feel take over for the fine tuning of the shot. Nothing is 100% but the combination of a measurable system and experiential learning certainly has moved my confidence level and hence my game up a notch.
Regarding the numbers on the front of the ball, once I started to visualize each of the contact points as a vertical ring around the ball it became a lot easier to set up to the shot.
Again, it is a system not an end in itself.
If what you are currently doing works for you...
I say Amen Brother.
If not, I have no problem recommending Joe Tucker's system.
 
Thanks for an objective review. I've used other materials from Joe and will look forward to using this as well.... based on your recommendation and well written review. Bump!
 
Although I have never seen Joe's video I can attest to the type of person Joe is and would recommend anything from him.
Joe is a first class guy who has a strong motivation to help others.

P.S. Joe, if you read this, hoping to see you at the Ocean State next month.
 
Hey Pat,

Thanks for taking the time to review the workout and to write a review, nice way to start of my week. Now I would like you to tell your boss you need some of those extra long lunch breaks cuz you have to submit some scores. Just tell'em I said it's okay.

Seriously, Thanks and to eveyone else for recommending it also,

Koop I'll see you there!
 
Good review

Thanks.

I would only take issue with your description of it as "index angles." As you noted, the system has nothing to do with recognizing or estimating angles. It is the same as the "equal opposite" system or using parallel lines to visualize the contact point, just with a new way of providing a reference to do it, which I think is an improvement.

"Index angles" only means there are some fixed angles to memorize, from which other in-between angles are estimated - it doesn't refer to the way that the fixed angles are found or aligned. In fact, considering that the index alignments in Joe's System are found by trial and error ("feel"), and those in "ball fractions" systems are found by alignment of specific parts of the balls, it could be argued that Joe's system has more to do with recognizing or estimating them.

I have trouble visualizing the contact point on the front of the CB, which of course is the difficult and crucial part of the system. But that should improve with practice.

Visualizing the CB contact point and aligning it with the OB contact point is the whole problem in aiming. It's what every aiming system tries to solve.

pj
chgo
 
Dawgie said:
Where can you buy Tucker's aiming system? Is it a video, book or both?
The site is available through Joe Tuckers Signature (post #7 above).
But here is the link...
http://www.joetucker.net/start.html
The set comes with a video, a workout book and the ball set (this includes disks that you can use to visualize the angles).

Great set to buy and this write up was better than I could explain the system.
Myron
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I'm not familiar with Chen's system. Can you describe it or point to it?

pj
chgo
It's actually Marvin Chin, Billiards Accuracy, 1982. I'll look through it if I remember, but I don't recall anything real surprising in it.
 
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