stacked wrap

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Kim Walker
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The stacked leather wrap that is currently available is not a real stacked wrap, it is a wound wrap using a leather lace.

My question is: has anyone actually put a real stacked leather wrap using stacked leather "washers"???? This type of wrap has been used on hand tools for years.

Kim
 
whammo57 said:
The stacked leather wrap that is currently available is not a real stacked wrap, it is a wound wrap using a leather lace.

My question is: has anyone actually put a real stacked leather wrap using stacked leather "washers"???? This type of wrap has been used on hand tools for years.

Kim
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One question. How would you get the leather washers onto the wrap groove? The handle area is a different diameter all along the wrap area so each ring would have to have a different size bore and the cue collar and forearm is larger than the bores in the washers.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
One question. How would you get the leather washers onto the wrap groove? The handle area is a different diameter all along the wrap area so each ring would have to have a different size bore and the cue collar and forearm is larger than the bores in the washers.

Dick
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Dick,

Kim full cores all of his cues on one dowel.

A couple hole punch sizes and Gorilla Glue might do the job to fill the gaps nicely. I don't think I would single point it though. Maybe a coat of schellac between cuts or something like that, quick and cheap and burnish between cuts to make the leather hard for the next cut.

Kim is on the fast track and has a very open mind and creativity for cue making. He has been coming up with some useful tricks by keeping his mind open.:idea2:

BTW, Kim, Todd used your water base clear and he can't believe the results as you have described and shown here.

Thanks for sharing here we all get better when we offer experience and opinions.:clapping:

Once a teacher always a teacher I guess.
Rick
 
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Kim, Jerry Powers, Jericho Cues, did one several years ago that I saw. Came out really nice. Down side is once it's together you can never change the wrap.
 
scdiveteam said:
Dick,

Kim full cores all of his cues on one dowel.

A couple hole punch sizes and Gorilla Glue might do the job to fill the gaps nicely. I don't think I would single point it though. Maybe a coat of schellac between cuts or something like that, quick and cheap and burnish between cuts to make the leather hard for the next cut.

Kim is on the fast track and has a very open mind and creativity for cue making. He has been coming up with some useful tricks by keeping his mind open.:idea2:

BTW, Kim, Todd used your water base clear and he can't believe the results as you have described and shown here.

Thanks for sharing here we all get better when we offer experience and opinions.:clapping:

Once a teacher always a teacher I guess.
Rick
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Glad to hear that someone benefited from my fumbling around.....

thanks

Kim
 
dunkelcustomcue said:
Kim, Jerry Powers, Jericho Cues, did one several years ago that I saw. Came out really nice. Down side is once it's together you can never change the wrap.
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Most likely you are right. I was thinking of a few different ways to do it.

1. just glue and stack the washers on the core dowel and press it all together or thread and screw the butt on and compress it.

2. glue up the leather handle, bore it and put it on in one piece.

3. make the butt in 3 pieces and make joints similar to A joints to assemble it. It would take aluminum screws to keep the weight down.

4. make the butt in 3 pieces and assemble it like a j/b stick so it will actually come apart.

I really want to not put finish on the leather and leave it natural. I have an idea for the butt cap and joint caps to make it all appear on the natural side also but not leather...

just some thoughts.... it may never happen but it is an interesting idea..... I like the unusual aspect. There is just so much more to be explored.

Where is my note book???? I have to write another idea down...... lol

Kim
 
I have thought the term "stacked" leather was simply loosely applied where cues are concerned. A real stacked leather grip, like on a K-Bar knife, would need to be installed before the butt sleeve I would guess. Interesting......
 
On the cue handles I make, I stack 70 or so cork rings over the full length core.
I then put the finish over all of the handle.
The cork is a one off application. If another wrap wants to be put on,the wrap groove
can be cut into the cork.
I could put on leather rings if the customer requested it.
 
Sounds time consuming to do a wrap with discs cut from leather. Is each disc glued together? If so has anyone tried cutting 1 slit from the ID of the discs to the OD, and slip them on after the fact in that way? I assume they are sanded, so curious if the end seams would be very visible or not.

Greg
 
Kim is a great guy. He has helped me out on numerous occasions with his brainstorming and ideas. Thanks Kim, I appreciate it.

However, do to the fact that he is retired, I know that he spends much of his time hanging out at Lowes in their Doo Dad Dept. figuring this stuff out.

Well, its definitely time well spent rather than hanging out at Wal Mart sitting on the benches people watching.
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
Kim is a great guy. He has helped me out on numerous occasions with his brainstorming and ideas. Thanks Kim, I appreciate it.

However, do to the fact that he is retired, I know that he spends much of his time hanging out at Lowes in their Doo Dad Dept. figuring this stuff out.

Well, its definitely time well spent rather than hanging out at Wal Mart sitting on the benches people watching.
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How did you know that?????

BTW I made a new glue fixture that I haven't even shared yet.... gotta take pics first.

lol

Kim
 
conetip said:
On the cue handles I make, I stack 70 or so cork rings over the full length core.
I then put the finish over all of the handle.
The cork is a one off application. If another wrap wants to be put on,the wrap groove
can be cut into the cork.
I could put on leather rings if the customer requested it.
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Interesting idea.....

Kim
 
whammo57 said:
Most likely you are right. I was thinking of a few different ways to do it.

1. just glue and stack the washers on the core dowel and press it all together or thread and screw the butt on and compress it.

2. glue up the leather handle, bore it and put it on in one piece.

3. make the butt in 3 pieces and make joints similar to A joints to assemble it. It would take aluminum screws to keep the weight down.

4. make the butt in 3 pieces and assemble it like a j/b stick so it will actually come apart.

I really want to not put finish on the leather and leave it natural. I have an idea for the butt cap and joint caps to make it all appear on the natural side also but not leather...

just some thoughts.... it may never happen but it is an interesting idea..... I like the unusual aspect. There is just so much more to be explored.

Where is my note book???? I have to write another idea down...... lol

Kim
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Here are the pictures.
 

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Where can a person buy those kind of leather washers or do you make them?

I was looking for leather punches to use as an outside and inside diameter veneer ring punch but couldn't find them large enuff.

Maybe I should check Lowes today.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Where can a person buy those kind of leather washers or do you make them?

I was looking for leather punches to use as an outside and inside diameter veneer ring punch but couldn't find them large enuff.

Maybe I should check Lowes today.
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PM sent

Kim
 
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