Need advice on a new GC5

realkingcobra

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So the most likely problem with this GCV are the wood wedges were used to level the slates? If that is the case I thought GCVs had some sort of slate leveling screws or bolts?? I am not sure, I have never seen one yet other than in pictures.

The first GC4 frames didn't come out with the factory levelers, so yes, wedges had to be used to level the slates, nevertheless, had the slates been set up correctly, there never would have been a problem with the seams.
 

fastone371

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The first GC4 frames didn't come out with the factory levelers, so yes, wedges had to be used to level the slates, nevertheless, had the slates been set up correctly, there never would have been a problem with the seams.

Thanks Glen, so the late GCIVs and GCVs do have slate leveling systems? Screws, bolts, or sliding wedges? The sliding wedges you install on Gold Crowns are similar to Diamonds system, correct? Just curious.
 

realkingcobra

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Thanks Glen, so the late GCIVs and GCVs do have slate leveling systems? Screws, bolts, or sliding wedges? The sliding wedges you install on Gold Crowns are similar to Diamonds system, correct? Just curious.

Brunswick only uses the bolt leveling system, the wedges I've installed in GCS were the Diamond wedges, but I don't use them anymore as I have my own leveling system which is much easier to use.
 

Dan White

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I think what they did for my table was get it as level as possible at the floor and then use the Brunswick levelers and screw pressure on the slate to fine tune the level. I'm 99% sure there are no wedges between the frame and the slate. The table rolled perfectly and there were no seam problems when they finished the job. The head end of the table is still good at the seam.
 

mchnhed

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To Jay of A-1 Billiards.
You say.....
"the built in slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

Do you mean use a flat wood shim on the head of each leveler?
or
You need to Add a few wedge Shims in-between the levelers?

Would adding MORE screw levelers help? I can add them before assembly.

I've heard the some mechs do not like to use the built-in levelers and use traditional shims.

How about plastic wedge shims with interlocking steps? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Shepherd...OaAm3Lsj3NvzUkUPcuJeUHsRknfkY2QDKyBoC_LTw_wcB

RKC - Do you use your own leveling system on a GCIV?
and
Just what does your own leveling system use?

RKC Thank You Again for Improving the Methods.
 
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realkingcobra

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You say.....
"the built in slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

Do you mean use a flat wood shim on the head of each leveler?

I've heard the some mechs do not like to use the built-in leveler.

RKC - Do you use your own leveling system on a GCIV?

Yes, same leveling system i use on all GCs.
 

mchnhed

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RKC Leveling System

Thanks RKC

Could you share on what I should do to level my GCIV?

I am but a Noobie Home Table Owner.

I've seen your step by step leveling instructions.....
My question is more towards....... If you use the levelers or not.
Do you add shims in between the levelers?
Should I add more levelers?
Or
do you use Ju Ju on a table as some have suggested?

Also..... Bees Wax, General Purpose Bondo, Car Bondo or ????????

mchnhed (Scott)
 
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realkingcobra

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Thanks RKC

Could you share on what I should do to level my GCIV?

I am but a Noobie Home Table Owner.

I've seen your step by step leveling instructions.....
My question is more towards....... If you use the levelers or not.
Do you add shims in between the levelers?
Should I add more levelers?
Or
do you use Ju Ju on a table as some have suggested?

Also..... Bees Wax, General Purpose Bondo, Car Bondo or ????????

mchnhed (Scott)

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Dan White

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To Jay of A-1 Billiards.
You say.....
"the built in slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

Do you mean use a flat wood shim on the head of each leveler?
or
You need to Add a few wedge Shims in-between the levelers?

Would adding MORE screw levelers help? I can add them before assembly.

I've heard the some mechs do not like to use the built-in levelers and use traditional shims.

How about plastic wedge shims with interlocking steps? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Shepherd...OaAm3Lsj3NvzUkUPcuJeUHsRknfkY2QDKyBoC_LTw_wcB

RKC - Do you use your own leveling system on a GCIV?
and
Just what does your own leveling system use?

RKC Thank You Again for Improving the Methods.

Thanks for reviving this thread. I actually forgot about it. I still have the slate problem so it's probably high time I got it fixed right this time (hopefully).
 

mchnhed

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A-1 Billiards Said:
I've worked on and installed many new and used Gold Crown 5's
"The built in slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

Please Continue ...........

Do You Mean a 1/8" Thick Wood Disc On Top of Each Leveler Head?
Or
Do You Mean:

Placing a Wood Wedge on Top of Each Head?

Adding Traditional Hard Wood Wedges?
In Between Each Set of Levelers, or Next to each Leveler?

Please Do Some Splannin'
 
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realkingcobra

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A-1 Billiards Said:
I've worked on and installed many new and used Gold Crown 5's
"The built in slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

Please Continue ...........

Do You Mean a 1/8" Thick Wood Disc On Top of Each Leveler Head?
Or
Do You Mean:

Placing a Wood Wedge on Top of Each Head?

Adding Traditional Hard Wood Wedges?
In Between Each Set of Levelers, or Next to each Leveler?

Please Do Some Splannin'
Wooden shims are used to level the slate out where needed, where there is no factory levelers.
 

mchnhed

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Wooden shims are used to level the slate out where needed, where there is no factory levelers.


A-1 Billiards Said:

"The built-in GC IV and V slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

A-1 Billiards

Do You Mean Placing a 1/8" Thick Wood Disc On Top of Each Leveler Head?
Or
Do You Mean:

Placing a Hard Wood Wedge on Top of Each Head?

Adding Traditional Hard Wood Wedges?
Between the Adjusters?
Next to the Adjusters?
 

realkingcobra

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Silver Member
A-1 Billiards Said:

"The built-in GC IV and V slate levelers need additional wooded wedges for expansion and contraction."

A-1 Billiards

Do You Mean Placing a 1/8" Thick Wood Disc On Top of Each Leveler Head?
Or
Do You Mean:

Placing a Hard Wood Wedge on Top of Each Head?

Adding Traditional Hard Wood Wedges?
Between the Adjusters?
Next to the Adjusters?

Levelers and wedges for leveling have nothing to do with expansion and contraction of the frame, THAT is why the slates are superglued together....to keep the seams from coming apart.
 

Dan_B

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First I’ve seen where super glue is part of this set-up; I’m guessing there
must not be much resistance to the break apart of the super glue when the
time comes to disassemble for a table/sale/move. I would think keeping
the super glue towards the bottom of the seam (slate) so not to over time
be breaking pieces of slate at the top edge would be important with all the
possible disassemble, rebuilds and assembles that the life of a table will endure.
This thread, like others have good pieces of info to decipher.
 

realkingcobra

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First I’ve seen where super glue is part of this set-up; I’m guessing there
must not be much resistance to the break apart of the super glue when the
time comes to disassemble for a table/sale/move. I would think keeping
the super glue towards the bottom of the seam (slate) so not to over time
be breaking pieces of slate at the top edge would be important with all the
possible disassemble, rebuilds and assembles that the life of a table will endure.
This thread, like others have good pieces of info to decipher.

There are severl post on here explaining the use of it to keep the seams from coming apart. All you need is fingernail polisher remover to dissolve the superglue if its really a concern.
 
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