Orginizationl History of Biiliards in the USA

nkvilliecues

AzB Silver Member
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This is a brief history of the carom billiards organizations that have allegedly been in charge of our game since the early 1970's when I began my involvement with the game. I never had any illusions about being a champion although I did make a final here and there and even won one official USBA Tournament [ask Mike Melloy-he will confirm] but that was a fluke involving a snow storm and the two favorites not being able to get there.

IN THE BEGINNING there were two organizations: The American Billiards Association [ABA] was formed in the mid-west and became national and played for prize money which meant at the time it was not acceptable to the Union Mondiale de Billard [UMB or World Billiard Union] as they were still trying to maintain the facade of amateurism as they were trying to suck up to the International Olympic Committee to get billiards included in the games. THEY ARE STILL TRYING AND IT IS 50 YEARS LATER and the only thing that has changed is that billiards are now playing for money above the table rather than below it. The Olympics went professional and for ten years we now had two INTERNATIONAL carom organizations at each others throats [BWA vs. UMB] until the UMB swallowed the BWA whole and turned professional.

Meanwhile, back in the states, I believe the ABA came first [late 60's] and then when the UMB informed them that, as they were a “professional” organization, ABA players could not play in world events sanctioned by the UMB we formed the Billiard Federation of the United States of America [BFUSA] and this organization’s, based in California, only purpose was to hold one tournament a year, an amateur event to qualify two Americans to play for the world’s championship, where ever the UMB decided to hold it [in Las Vegas once in the 1970's and once in the 1980's and never in this country since then.]

These two organizations existed side by side, not necessarily in agreement, until I believe 1986 when they merged to become the United States Billiard Association. It is now 30 years later and the organization has been a failure. Sang Lee might have changed that but alas he up and died on us and since then there has been no leadership in the USBA [and I am speaking as a former president] to speak of until Mazin assumed the presidency. Mazin has recruited and number of people to work with and for him because he realized years ago that running the USBA is NOT a ONE MAN JOB and that he would need help if it ever came to that.

The main organizational failure is not having "trained trainers" who would in turn be able to teach the game to both pool players and juniors and NOT to concentrate on their own game. That is the organization's focus has been on tournaments for its members rather than the teaching and exposing of the game to non-players. This must change but in my dim view it is to late.

With out naming names there exists currently a cadre of 8 people who are ACTIVELY WORKING OFF THE TABLE to promote carom billiards in America. You are either on the team or off it. DO NOT ASK THE BILLIARDS WHAT IT CAN DO FOR YOU BUT ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR BILLIARDS......are you part of the problem or part of the solution???

So to all you little nits out there who do not even have one student that you are teaching [probably a good thing as you probably only play 0.400 which is pathetic and does not qualify you as a teacher] all I can say is you can continue in your own little world, play a few innings with some old friends, AND WATCH THE GAME DIE OR YOU CAN GET OFF YOUR FAT ASSES AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING. The choice is yours, I have made mine......
 

Texas Carom Club

9ball did to billiards what hiphop did to america
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We're all failing if we don't take every opportunity to expose anyone and everyone to the GAMES

I'm posting the shit out of everything

Next to no small games were talked about or posted on here, say for Dean n maldito

My straight rail thread has over 11000 views, that's kind of astounding to me

I post up one the libre cadre and 1 cushion all I can
High 3c runs everyone likes
But if a 3c match goes to say 30 innings more, it's hard for non fans to keep interest

So I post those here and in the main forum as well, as well as the most exceptional small game play
And people dig it
It's hard to deny the beauty and skill of great balkline and 1 cushion play

I get greenies and messages here and there thankine for exposing them


I'm way more about the small game than 3c

It is my personal agenda to do what I can to bring as many eyes on those games as I can, with or without anyone's organization or support

Here in the Carom, main forum, the instructional forum,across Facebook
Even on one pkt.org
 
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KissedOut

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
This is a brief history of the carom billiards organizations that have allegedly been in charge of our game since the early 1970's when I began my involvement with the game. I never had any illusions about being a champion although I did make a final here and there and even won one official USBA Tournament [ask Mike Melloy-he will confirm] but that was a fluke involving a snow storm and the two favorites not being able to get there.

IN THE BEGINNING there were two organizations: The American Billiards Association [ABA] was formed in the mid-west and became national and played for prize money which meant at the time it was not acceptable to the Union Mondiale de Billard [UMB or World Billiard Union] as they were still trying to maintain the facade of amateurism as they were trying to suck up to the International Olympic Committee to get billiards included in the games. THEY ARE STILL TRYING AND IT IS 50 YEARS LATER and the only thing that has changed is that billiards are now playing for money above the table rather than below it. The Olympics went professional and for ten years we now had two INTERNATIONAL carom organizations at each others throats [BWA vs. UMB] until the UMB swallowed the BWA whole and turned professional.

Meanwhile, back in the states, I believe the ABA came first [late 60's] and then when the UMB informed them that, as they were a “professional” organization, ABA players could not play in world events sanctioned by the UMB we formed the Billiard Federation of the United States of America [BFUSA] and this organization’s, based in California, only purpose was to hold one tournament a year, an amateur event to qualify two Americans to play for the world’s championship, where ever the UMB decided to hold it [in Las Vegas once in the 1970's and once in the 1980's and never in this country since then.]

These two organizations existed side by side, not necessarily in agreement, until I believe 1986 when they merged to become the United States Billiard Association. It is now 30 years later and the organization has been a failure. Sang Lee might have changed that but alas he up and died on us and since then there has been no leadership in the USBA [and I am speaking as a former president] to speak of until Mazin assumed the presidency. Mazin has recruited and number of people to work with and for him because he realized years ago that running the USBA is NOT a ONE MAN JOB and that he would need help if it ever came to that.

The main organizational failure is not having "trained trainers" who would in turn be able to teach the game to both pool players and juniors and NOT to concentrate on their own game. That is the organization's focus has been on tournaments for its members rather than the teaching and exposing of the game to non-players. This must change but in my dim view it is to late.

With out naming names there exists currently a cadre of 8 people who are ACTIVELY WORKING OFF THE TABLE to promote carom billiards in America. You are either on the team or off it. DO NOT ASK THE BILLIARDS WHAT IT CAN DO FOR YOU BUT ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR BILLIARDS......are you part of the problem or part of the solution???

So to all you little nits out there who do not even have one student that you are teaching [probably a good thing as you probably only play 0.400 which is pathetic and does not qualify you as a teacher] all I can say is you can continue in your own little world, play a few innings with some old friends, AND WATCH THE GAME DIE OR YOU CAN GET OFF YOUR FAT ASSES AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING. The choice is yours, I have made mine......

Yup, that's the ticket. Insulting people and name-calling is definitely the way to grow the game.
 

nkvilliecues

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Good post - so if you have avg .400 and still play and enjoy the game and introduce someone to it that is bad ??
Not saying that is bad just don't think as a .400 you can TEACH the game. YES you can expose others to the game and hope they get better than you [0.400 i am sorry you know nothing] BUT DO NOT CLAIM TO BE ABLE TO TEACH UNTIL YOU CAN PLAY 1.000 AT LEAST
 

nkvilliecues

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
MAYBE I WANT TO KILL THE GAME ????? Did you ever consider that???? And take pool and snooker along with it
 
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