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12-24-2017, 08:51 PM

East Ridge Billiards in Rochester, NY has a simple rate structure. Walk in the door at Noon. Give the counter person a ten dollar bill and play till Midnight. Each additional player is ten dollars for one hour or twelve. Seven foot or nine foot.

In addition to pool tables, ERB also offers a full bar. A restaurant with daily specials such as Pasta Fagioli or individually prepared Chicken Alfredo as well as finger foods is open from Noon to close.

Nope, we're not going out of business. We have twenty new Diamond tables set up as well as an additional nineteen tables in the new section to be opened next year.

Yes, the market is small. One other pool room on the other side of town. The owners MUST be doing something correctly. Incidentally, we used to have a "skipping out" problem years ago. A fixed prepaid charge for food and/or pool ended that.

Our experience is probably different that yours. Not better or worse. Just different!

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12-29-2017, 09:03 AM

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A pay for play billiard hall is not a retail mall or a homeless shelter or a summer cooling station. Inner city pool halls would have 10 people gathered around a table just to keep warm in the winter and cool in the summer if there were a flat $5 hour charge regardless of the number of "players" at a table. it is a BUSINESS folks - the owner pays rent, utilities, maintenance, employee salaries, etc.
if you want a FLAT Table rate, regardless of the number of "players" then you need a food or drink minimum charge per table to stay alive in business- which would you prefer?
^^^^^ Exactly! I was in a pool hall the other day in Indiana and there was a "railbird" who came in just to get out of the cold and sleep. Looked homeless and he could care less about pool. He slept for the 3 hours I was playing.
  
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01-02-2018, 08:15 PM

It's a tradeoff. As a room owner myself, if we charged a rate per hour per table, such as $15 or even $10, you'd really be punishing the single players and even the pairs, but it would be a great deal for 4 or more.

The rates you propose are very close to our rates here in our room in rural Boone, NC - a completely different market than Chicago, obviously. We charge $3/hr per person for one or two persons on a table, it drops to $2.75 each for 3, $2.50 each for 4, and $2.25 each for 5 or more. Our pool prices have remained the same for over 20 years.

As a room owner, the problem with the per person rates, is if you have a waiting list for tables with a few tables taken up by single players, and you may have groups of 4 waiting to play on a table, who may get impatient and end up leaving before they get their table, in which you not only lose their table time, but all the money the group likely would have spent in F&B as well while they were here, whereas the single player playing alone on a table is likely spending very little. However, you don't want to anger them, as they are likely some of your regular customers. Sadly, as with many poolrooms, we rarely have a waiting list anymore so that situation doesn't happen as much as it used to.

Most all poolrooms, including ours, during lower demand weekday afternoon hours, offer special deals for regulars, such as $10 maximum charge from opening until 7pm. You couldn't do that during higher demand nighttime hours without having to turn away groups not willing to wait for a table.
  
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01-02-2018, 08:29 PM

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Howdy All;

As an aside to this pricing debate I'd like to know if there are any Rooms that
would have a monthly payment plan for regulars that come in multiple times
per week and stay for a few hours or more each time? If so, what would be
considered as a "fair" rate?

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$150 per month unlimited. Only stipulation was if they were playing alone on a table and we had a waiting list, we'd try to get them join up with someone on another table. We are closed Sundays, so if a player plays 25 days a month (every day we are open) that's $6 per day, 20 days a month is $7.50 per day, 15 days a month would be $10 per day average.

Our 11am till 7pm unlimited rate is $10, so the players that wish to play/practice a whole lot during the day will take advantage of that like 3-4 days a week and they'll come out better than coughing up $150 prepaid for the monthly charge.
  
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Flat rate - 01-15-2018, 08:38 PM

Several rooms in Upstate NY do flat rate pricing. 7 to 10 dollars per person. Play all you like. It rewards your regulars who play longer. Here the serious players play different times than the party crowd. When your average recreational player is on just over an hour flat rate pricing lets you make more than hourly rate.
  
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ChrisinNC, Howdy;

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$150 per month unlimited. Only stipulation was if they were playing alone on a table and we had a waiting list, we'd try to get them join up with someone on another table. We are closed Sundays, so if a player plays 25 days a month (every day we are open) that's $6 per day, 20 days a month is $7.50 per day, 15 days a month would be $10 per day average.

Our 11am till 7pm unlimited rate is $10, so the players that wish to play/practice a whole lot during the day will take advantage of that like 3-4 days a week and they'll come out better than coughing up $150 prepaid for the monthly charge.
Thanks for the insight. What you say makes a lot of sense, and gives
an option, nice.


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