Simple question for you experts on 14.1

alinco

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As a side note on the break shot...failure to get 2 object balls to a rail is not a foul. It is an illegal break and you lose 2 points. Other player has the option of playing the table or having you re-break.

An illegal break is not a foul so does not count towards 3 consecutive fouls.

Andy
 

AtLarge

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As a side note on the break shot...failure to get 2 object balls to a rail is not a foul. It is an illegal break and you lose 2 points. Other player has the option of playing the table or having you re-break.

An illegal break is not a foul so does not count towards 3 consecutive fouls.

Andy

Under WPA (world-standardized) rules, it is not called an "illegal break," it is a "breaking foul." So it is a type of foul (a 2-pointer) but different from "standard fouls" (1-pointers). And, yes, a breaking foul does not count toward the 3-foul rule.

Just to be different, the CSI rules (BCAPL and USAPL) use the term "opening break violation" rather than "breaking foul."
 

Seth C.

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Under WPA (world-standardized) rules, it is not called an "illegal break," it is a "breaking foul." So it is a type of foul (a 2-pointer) but different from "standard fouls" (1-pointers). And, yes, a breaking foul does not count toward the 3-foul rule.

Just to complete the picture, the WPA 14.1 rules also prescribe what happens when both a breaking foul and a standard foul occur on the same opening break shot:

"A breaking foul is penalized by the loss of two points as mentioned under 4.3 Opening Break Shot, as well as a possible re-break. If both a standard foul and a breaking foul happen on one shot, it is considered a breaking foul."
 

arcstats

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If a player were to scratch on the opening break after two balls and the cue have contacted a rail, does this count as a legal break and the player is only penalized 1 point?
 

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If a player were to scratch on the opening break after two balls and the cue have contacted a rail, does this count as a legal break and the player is only penalized 1 point?

Yes. BIH behind the line for the opponent.
 
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