This guy I know & a good player always uses a one piece cue. I asked him why & he stated that no matter what joint is used it will have a small amount of play in the joint when shot hard. Anyone know if this is true?
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any joint will divide the surface tension.a two piece cue can come close but will never be the same as a one piece.
bill
Good! If I thought my cues played like a house cue I would quit building cues.
Dick
Not trying to start a War here but, some background info is needed here. He was a former Snooker player from England. He plays Pool now & hits em straight & solid. The guy is quite good I am guessing APA 6-7 ? Just a guess. He can run the table if everything is right with the object balls. He will miss now & then but, not often. He is better than I ever hope to be! JMO
Good! If I thought my cues played like a house cue I would quit building cues.
Dick
Not trying to start a War here but, some background info is needed here. He was a former Snooker player from England. He plays Pool now & hits em straight & solid. The guy is quite good I am guessing APA 6-7 ? Just a guess. He can run the table if everything is right with the object balls. He will miss now & then but, not often. He is better than I ever hope to be! JMO
Not starting any war as he can like or dislike any cue he likes but I think you missed the message that he presented and what I said. He said that no 2 piece cue feels exactly the same as a one piece. I never disagreed with that statement. What he feels about cues has absolutely nothing to do with the hit or feel I am trying to accomplish in the cues I build. He may like a house cues hit and feel - I don't. By the way, I was a 7 for over 20 years and I have run 1000's of racks. That doesn't mean a thing as far as making another like the way they feel about the hit of my cues nor vice/versus.
Dick
Good! If I thought my cues played like a house cue I would quit building cues.
Dick
I agree 100%! I think that is the most ridiculous urban legend going when it comes to pool. Do any of you really think the pro's would be using 2 piece cues if they though it had ANY detrimental effect? Of course not. I'm not saying there aren't some good house cues out there, but for the most part, they're no comparison to a good custom cue! The technology today in cue building is so far advanced to the one piece house cue it's just ridiculous to think that the house cue is a better choice. JMHO of course, but it's based on over 25 years building cues.
This guy I know & a good player always uses a one piece cue. I asked him why & he stated that no matter what joint is used it will have a small amount of play in the joint when shot hard. Anyone know if this is true?
So is it fair to say that house cues are not built with performance in mind as are 2 piece customs ? In general I cannot see how simply adding a joint would improve the cue (other than for it's original purpose to make the cue more easily transportable), there must be something else (taper, ferrule design/material, etc) that makes them better. If that is the case then a one piece cue might be made with better performance designed in.
Dave
It's not simply adding a joint that makes the difference. It's all the things you mentioned above, plus the fact that the balance can be controlled better when you make a cue from scratch and the construction techniques are such that you have many more options, not just in the cosmetics but also the adhesives and materials used, the butt and shaft tapers etc... Unless you're making the one piece cues from scratch, which I know of no custom cuemakers doing, you can't get the options and quality materials that have never been used in house cues. One piece house cues have always been the cheapest cues available. There's a reason for that! The old Titlists are sometimes an exception to this rule, but they are usually "converted" and often have maple handles under the wraps and when it's cut up to make the conversion, the cuemaker has ways of improving the performance over a one piece cue. I know the "old growth wood" in the old cues can be better, but often the adhesives break down and that can easily outweigh the benefit of the old wood.
This guy I know & a good player always uses a one piece cue. I asked him why & he stated that no matter what joint is used it will have a small amount of play in the joint when shot hard. Anyone know if this is true?
Good! If I thought my cues played like a house cue I would quit building cues.
Dick