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01-11-2018, 11:47 AM

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My point Alphadog is that I can use a $600 Nova or $1000 Jim Buss and then use a $2500 Southwest and don't see a difference. That's all I was getting at.
Thanks to the majority for their responses
Hey you even answered your own question?

You can buy a Nova for 600,and then play with it.

You cant buy the others for 600. If you have 2500 you can buy any of the cues or even 2 of the cues.

Now if you cant tell any differance buy the Southwest and sell it for 1000. Buy the Buss try it ,if you dont like it,sell it for 600 and buy the Nova.


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Just to settle this i will drive your altima 6 months then your BMW 6 months .Then ill play with your nova 6 months then your SW. I will then give my opinion drive my Fiero(v-8) to play with my R-2 schon.
  
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01-11-2018, 12:53 PM

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Just to settle this i will drive your altima 6 months then your BMW 6 months .Then ill play with your nova 6 months then your SW. I will then give my opinion drive my Fiero(v-8) to play with my R-2 schon.
Mr. Suave where do I sign up for this once in a lifetime oppurtunity?


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01-11-2018, 05:54 PM

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Hey you even answered your own question?

You can buy a Nova for 600,and then play with it.

You cant buy the others for 600. If you have 2500 you can buy any of the cues or even 2 of the cues.

Now if you cant tell any differance buy the Southwest and sell it for 1000. Buy the Buss try it ,if you dont like it,sell it for 600 and buy the Nova.
I'd actually take the buss, of those 3...money be damned!


You should have a shot at the cash, especially if we don't get any top pros participating.
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01-11-2018, 05:54 PM

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Mr. Suave where do I sign up for this once in a lifetime oppurtunity?
Wait a minute...


You should have a shot at the cash, especially if we don't get any top pros participating.
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01-11-2018, 06:37 PM

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joint construction as well as overall construction methonds, fit & finish, engineering methods,
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01-13-2018, 07:35 AM

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In some cases,,,, not very long.
your focusing like many only on actual "cut/shaping time" forgetting about storage, curing of wood, EQUIPMENT SET UP, sharpening of tools, wait time b/t passes etc.

setting the equipment just to begin wether i'm on a lathe, or even on my chainsaw mill takes much longer than the actual cutting and shaping does....

lets not forget about the time it takes to perform safety checks from time to time during said work.

unless your using lots of precious metals/gemstones and ivory.....the material is the cheapest least costly if you ask me......well unless if your buying everything premade and assembling then sure thats pricey off the get go.

rregardless of how you recieve materials as a maker (premade or just plain lumber) making a quality cue takes a very long time all work start to finish.

Storing of the wood is actually probably the most costly, it takes up alot of space.....and of course you cant just keep the stuff outside generally speaking.
  
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01-13-2018, 08:18 AM

The value of things can be determined in a very subjective manner......for instance...
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01-13-2018, 08:51 AM

the short answer is supply and demand.

the longer answer would go into the reasons that explain supply and demand for certain cues such as quality, craftsmanship, materials, playability, availability, rarity, reputation, etc.

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01-13-2018, 09:21 AM

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The law of supply and demand.
now that i read the thread i see you beat me by 3 days.


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01-13-2018, 10:02 AM

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What makes a cue so expensive?
Say a Scruggs, a Gilbert, a Southwest etc.
The shop building and equipment have a cost, as does the monthly utility and maintenance to keep them operating. Materials cost. When you buy a cue, you don't think of paper towels, rubber gloves, air filters, adhesives, hardware, etc. You think more along the lines of wood, and that's about where it stops. The reality is that there are many, many more costs than wood. Then you must factor time. How much per hour can you live on? Per week? Per month? A cue maker has to survive just like you do. If he's only making one cue per month, he needs twice as much as the guy making two per month in order to live the same lifestyle. He needs a whole lot more than the factory punching cues out on an assembly line. Lucky for us, there's a market to support all levels.


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01-13-2018, 10:46 AM

Supposedly quality & demand. But with lots (& I mean lots & lots) of supply available, maybe some are higher than we'd like to pay.

But we didn't buy the lathe, the wood, the glue & or the supplies for the finish. And we didn't spend 5 to 10 years learning how to do it.

Look at the cues available on AZB... at one time, someone felt like the cue was a Magic Wand. Did the magic go away or did someone sell a Magic Wand for a few dollars.... too bad.

If a particular cue is more than you can afford, save your money.




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01-17-2018, 09:06 AM

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What makes a cue so expensive?
Say a Scruggs, a Gilbert, a Southwest etc.
One you reach a certain quality the rest is cosmetics, marketing and demand. I know many players that can whoop your butt with a house cue.
  
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One you reach a certain quality the rest is cosmetics, marketing and demand. I know many players that can whoop your butt with a house cue.
look what efren did when he first came to the US with his $20 cue.

Just imagine how much better he could have done with a g-note cue.


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