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Revo technology - 01-12-2018, 02:25 PM

Well, new , new , another new shaft. Really? I took a 1960's black graphite shaft from a $5.00 cue , foam filled it as I did 30 years ago while being in the plastics business as a consultant ; added my joint and ferrule....played great...actually toooo great for what it was!!! Couple guys at the billiard room asked if it was a Revo, I laughed and explained that it was not a 500.00 shaft . A salesman can sell you anything if you believe it puts balls in easier...we've all done that. With time on the table you can adapt with any cue...Hoppe used the same cue for over 17 years..he knew what it would do. Marketing is expensive and technical jargen is there to impress and justify pricing as in any well oiled business venture. With newer machines products can be made consistent , cosmetically appealing and fasssst.
Experiment yourself , you will be amazed at the simplicity to make a good playing shaft.
  
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01-12-2018, 02:41 PM

I play the same regardless of the shaft. I do have a 12.4 and 12.9 Revo. No regrets. It does not play better than a 314-2 or any stock shaft I have. I had a CueTec shaft take a nice scratch. I can live without the REVO but I do like playing with it.




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01-12-2018, 03:33 PM

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Well, new , new , another new shaft. Really? I took a 1960's black graphite shaft from a $5.00 cue , foam filled it as I did 30 years ago while being in the plastics business as a consultant ; added my joint and ferrule....played great...actually toooo great for what it was!!! Couple guys at the billiard room asked if it was a Revo, I laughed and explained that it was not a 500.00 shaft . A salesman can sell you anything if you believe it puts balls in easier...we've all done that. With time on the table you can adapt with any cue...Hoppe used the same cue for over 17 years..he knew what it would do. Marketing is expensive and technical jargen is there to impress and justify pricing as in any well oiled business venture. With newer machines products can be made consistent , cosmetically appealing and fasssst.
Experiment yourself , you will be amazed at the simplicity to make a good playing shaft.
I'd bet the advertising in Hoppe's day claimed you would play like him if you bought his cue
  
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01-12-2018, 03:42 PM

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I'd bet the advertising in Hoppe's day claimed you would play like him if you bought his cue
Some ads seemed to say you would play like him if you smoked his brand of cigarettes.

And "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette."


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01-12-2018, 03:44 PM

So is your beef with the cost of the shaft? Or is it that you feel it doesn't play any better than regular wood shafts or wood LD shafts? Just trying to understand what you're trying to say.

I have played with a SW for most of 15 years or more and Meuccis and McDermotts and Hueblers before that. I'm switching to a revo for one main reason, no more dings. That's it.

I've hit with several and I think they hit and feel just fine. I'm not looking forward to the tedious process of relearning how to aim but I think it will be worth it in the long run because I won't be sitting in a pool hall stewing about all the dings and dents that mysteriously appear on my wooden shafts.


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And "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette."


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01-12-2018, 07:02 PM

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Well, new , new , another new shaft. Really? I took a 1960's black graphite shaft from a $5.00 cue , foam filled it as I did 30 years ago while being in the plastics business as a consultant ; added my joint and ferrule....played great...actually toooo great for what it was!!! Couple guys at the billiard room asked if it was a Revo, I laughed and explained that it was not a 500.00 shaft . A salesman can sell you anything if you believe it puts balls in easier...we've all done that. With time on the table you can adapt with any cue...Hoppe used the same cue for over 17 years..he knew what it would do. Marketing is expensive and technical jargen is there to impress and justify pricing as in any well oiled business venture. With newer machines products can be made consistent , cosmetically appealing and fasssst.
Experiment yourself , you will be amazed at the simplicity to make a good playing shaft.


Have you tried it next to a Revo playing the same shot?
Have you shot with a Revo for an extended period of time.


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01-12-2018, 07:09 PM

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Well, new , new , another new shaft. Really? I took a 1960's black graphite shaft from a $5.00 cue , foam filled it as I did 30 years ago while being in the plastics business as a consultant ; added my joint and ferrule....played great...actually toooo great for what it was!!! Couple guys at the billiard room asked if it was a Revo, I laughed and explained that it was not a 500.00 shaft . A salesman can sell you anything if you believe it puts balls in easier...we've all done that. With time on the table you can adapt with any cue...Hoppe used the same cue for over 17 years..he knew what it would do. Marketing is expensive and technical jargen is there to impress and justify pricing as in any well oiled business venture. With newer machines products can be made consistent , cosmetically appealing and fasssst.
Experiment yourself , you will be amazed at the simplicity to make a good playing shaft.
Did you try taking an old ski pole made of carbon and putting a ferrule on it? Filling it with foam would probably be a good idea. You need one of the tapered downhill ones, they should be the right diameter (ish). Should be low deflection, but will hit like crap, I guess. If you use a glove anyway, might as well go all out! It would definitely be necessary in this case.

I think the biggest challenge with stuff like this is getting an acceptable hit, with secure bonds in the joint and ferrule areas without putting a lot of wood or other materials there. But then again I don't make cues, so I wouldn't know, really.

My first cue had fiber glass in it. I thought it hit well, and the shaft was white, making aiming a breeze. Sadly the deflection was high, but I really thought the hit was ok for the extremely low price. Cuetecs offerings were very poor hitting by comparison. They seem to bend in all the wrong places, if you know what I mean.

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01-12-2018, 07:36 PM

Just so much bullshit being fed to players. Think for yourselves.


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01-12-2018, 07:47 PM

I've been beaten more with old McDermotts, Hueblers and Meuccis than any other cues. BIIIIG ferrules, BIIIG diameter shafts. I should have won those matches easily, right? Wrong. It's the player not the shaft. Those all black Revo shafts look cool though. Just not 500 dollar cool, to me. They play just as well as the player holding them, unfortunately in my case, when I try them, that's not quite good enough, lol.
  
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01-12-2018, 08:37 PM

Trust me; I it hasn't happened yet, it will Real SOON. The market will be flooded with " RIVA " Shafts that play as good as the " Revo " shafts and the hype will be over as fast as it started because the " Riva " shaft will retail for like $79.95.

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Have you tried it next to a Revo playing the same shot?
Have you shot with a Revo for an extended period of time.
Of course he didnít lol He just wants to give his uneducated opinion. Thatís a lot more fun


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01-13-2018, 07:03 AM

Of course, marketing usually drives every product but new gadgets helps add interest and most importantly.....money. Perhaps with more gadgets that sell successfully will culminate in more tournaments, higher purses, and sponsorship. All reasonable people know gadgets will not change the order of champions. Nor will a layered tip, low deflection shafts, or other new products. The good thing is it keeps us amateurs hopeful of improvement even when our abilities are lacking. Best of all, no one can force us to buy them.
  
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Of course, marketing usually drives every product but new gadgets helps add interest and most importantly.....money. Perhaps with more gadgets that sell successfully will culminate in more tournaments, higher purses, and sponsorship. All reasonable people know gadgets will not change the order of champions. Nor will a layered tip, low deflection shafts, or other new products. The good thing is it keeps us amateurs hopeful of improvement even when our abilities are lacking. Best of all, no one can force us to buy them.
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Well, new , new , another new shaft. Really? I took a 1960's black graphite shaft from a $5.00 cue , foam filled it as I did 30 years ago while being in the plastics business as a consultant ; added my joint and ferrule....played great...actually toooo great for what it was!!! Couple guys at the billiard room asked if it was a Revo, I laughed and explained that it was not a 500.00 shaft . A salesman can sell you anything if you believe it puts balls in easier...we've all done that. With time on the table you can adapt with any cue...Hoppe used the same cue for over 17 years..he knew what it would do. Marketing is expensive and technical jargen is there to impress and justify pricing as in any well oiled business venture. With newer machines products can be made consistent , cosmetically appealing and fasssst.
Experiment yourself , you will be amazed at the simplicity to make a good playing shaft.
You are right on with " with time on the table you can adapt to any cue" . Sometimes we all get caught up with looking for lightning in a bottle.
  
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