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You the victims! Lol

This is my grandmothers church! She bought the land and built it for the black community in Surry Virginia.





That picture was taken from 2016! During the whole rash of trump hate crime rampages.

The psychological and physical damage of years of hatred is not remedied by a out of sight out of mind policy of make believe nothing bad ever happened!

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Meanwhile most white pastors build their church for the Religious community with no regards to color.


Sorry Kid, you left that wide open for inspection. Now, let's talk about the fact that what happened to that church was wrong and the people were caught and punished and most like for a "Hate" crime which most here would agree is the right thing to happen to the perps. The point of the thread is to expose how every group other than white males has been singled out for special treatment and given advantageous positions to start from in many cases by government edict. Case in point. I worked for a small Novell network company as a sales engineer at one time that was owned by a couple from India. The wife worked as the receptionist and did some bookkeeping and the husband was the senior engineer. He listed her as President and him as Vice president, so the company could get 10 point advantages on most of the government bids we did because as a minority business and woman owned business enterprise, they could do that and rape the tax payers for an additional 10% over the lowest bidders cost. This crap about being disadvantaged just because you are not white or a white male, is a crock. It also plays into college acceptance numbers, job hiring, etc etc etc. When does it stop?


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01-11-2017, 08:38 AM

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Meanwhile most white pastors build their church for the Religious community with no regards to color.
Again, all were welcomed. Black people using white churches during segregation was frowned upon! So, up went churches that welcomed black people!

But, yes my response was not clear and taken literally could imply that white members were excluded and that was far from the M.O.

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01-11-2017, 08:40 AM

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Again, all were welcomed. Black people using white churches during segregation was frowned upon! So, up went churches that welcomed black people!

But, yes my response was not clear and taken literally could imply that white members were excluded and that was far from the M.O.

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Dylan Roof was welcomed in a black church to pray with the congregants. But he had that whole other thing going on. Remember?


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Again, all were welcomed. Black people using white churches during segregation was frowned upon! So, up went churches that welcomed black people!

But, yes my response was not clear and taken literally could imply that white members were excluded and that was far from the M.O.

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I knew that.. I just wanted to point out how the color slips into the dialogue by those of color at every turn which is what is a divisive starter. If I were to refer to "white" community, people, etc etc at every juncture, I would be labeled a racist. When everyone stops differentiating themselves or "their" communities by color, then the healing and acceptance can begin. IOW.... NAACP need to dissolve itself.... it is a racist organization just by definition because it separate man by color. If I were to form an National Assn for the Parity of White Males, would that not grab attention nationwide and be labeled by most as a racist organization?


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I knew that.. I just wanted to point out how the color slips into the dialogue by those of color at every turn which is what is a divisive starter. If I were to refer to "white" community, people, etc etc at every juncture, I would be labeled a racist. When everyone stops differentiating themselves or "their" communities by color, then the healing and acceptance can begin. IOW.... NAACP need to dissolve itself.... it is a racist organization just by definition because it separate man by color.
You have a valid point.!

I think that they are scared to shut down! It took a lot of work building up from scratch and dismantling could be premature and hard to resurrect if the need resurfaces.

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Dylan Roof was welcomed in a black church to pray with the congregants. But he had that whole other thing going on. Remember?



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Maybe a ladle. I wasn't the one who brought the race thing up. Re read the thread or you might need a shovel not a spoon.


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You have a valid point.!

I think that they are scared to shut down! It took a lot of work building up from scratch and dismantling could be premature and hard to resurrect if the need resurfaces.

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Honest reply. Now if there were some way to impact minority youth in impoverished areas to not drop out of school but cherish the fact that no one can stop them from learning, but prison doors are waiting for them if they choose to go the easy street route in life..... then real progress in our society could be made. As it is.... the lure to gangs, drugs, and violence is winning out and why far too many innocents are being caught in the crossfire in Chicago and other major inner cities. When the NAACP puts 90% effort into changing that, then I will say they are truly "for the advancement of the colored people" that their name implies. Hell, I would donate and volunteer if that were on their agenda.


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01-11-2017, 09:28 AM

Please give us a news link or the FBI news report of this hate crime.
I'd like to read more.



I can't seem to find any news at all on this hate crime...or arson even. Help us out

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Meanwhile most white pastors build their church for the Religious community with no regards to color.


Sorry Kid, you left that wide open for inspection. Now, let's talk about the fact that what happened to that church was wrong and the people were caught and punished and most like for a "Hate" crime which most here would agree is the right thing to happen to the perps. The point of the thread is to expose how every group other than white males has been singled out for special treatment and given advantageous positions to start from in many cases by government edict. Case in point. I worked for a small Novell network company as a sales engineer at one time that was owned by a couple from India. The wife worked as the receptionist and did some bookkeeping and the husband was the senior engineer. He listed her as President and him as Vice president, so the company could get 10 point advantages on most of the government bids we did because as a minority business and woman owned business enterprise, they could do that and rape the tax payers for an additional 10% over the lowest bidders cost. This crap about being disadvantaged just because you are not white or a white male, is a crock. It also plays into college acceptance numbers, job hiring, etc etc etc. When does it stop?
Ask yourself why does the subsidies exist???

White farmers rape this country ever year with farm subsidies! Been doing it for years! But, minority subsidies favored by legislatures also white as a remedy for social ailments should vilify the recipients for utilizing the remedies established for their benefit is akin to some type of evil deed.

Fact is, people were wrongly treated! In place of dollar for dollar restitution we got subsidies to utilize and recoup.

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You are correct! Mentioning trump was a pot shot. But, he did fan the flames of hate
I could be wrong, but I have never heard Trump, or any politician really, fanning the flames of hate against southern churches or black folks in general.

(If anything, the D party talks down about Christians)

Trump is for controlled immigration, which is interpreted by the media as "hate".

Trump "hates" the "crimes" that have been committed by illegal immigrants who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Whoever did this doesnt have Trump's approval, just like the guy who shot 5 police in Dallas doesn't have the approval of Hillary or Obama......

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01-11-2017, 09:53 AM

That's a shame that a small mind had to prove it. My prayers to the congregation. Our God will deal with the dummy involved. I'd hate to be in his/her shoes.
The reverse aspect is to highlight that it cuts both ways. Don't take credit for the suffering of others from the past either. Those days are gone. We now have Black history month, etc. Black lives matter has been allowed to run unchecked well beyond an acceptable level. That falls on barry and a handful of other black "leaders" as well as white guilt. Enough is enough. Clean slate for all. Carry your own weight. The participation rate must go up 10 points or so.
  
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Please give us a news link or the FBI news report of this hate crime.
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I can't seem to find any news at all on this hate crime...or arson even. Help us out

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=surry+virg...on&t=h_&ia=web
Amazing. The photos of the pre and post burn are not even the same building. And what about the sign??? Why no char marks? Something is off here.. How quickly the heart strings overlook the obvious investigation. Google has nothing but pretty pics of that church and nothing anywhere as far as news.... They really must hate that place if no one even reported it being burned down. I guess we could call the number listed on Facebook and ask about the fire and offer a donations and condolences.

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Amazing. The photos of the pre and post burn are not even the same building. And what about the sign??? Why no char marks? Something is off here..
Here is a 2013 shot of the building from Google street-view. The brick steps were removed, the sign relocated, and the wooden ramp installed. They probably had to to meet ADA mandates.

The older pics are clearly dated 2003.

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You are correct! Mentioning trump was a pot shot. But, he did fan the flames of hate when this went down and no one can truly say the gasoline he used to rally the votes did not have some collateral damage in the form of this ruined church.

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