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01-11-2017, 10:28 AM

KD said this was charged as a hate crime by the FBI.

I would like to read more about the facts of the story.

I know the building is the same, but while looking at facts, can't find anything about arson or hate.


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01-11-2017, 10:30 AM

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KD said this was charged as a hate crime by the FBI.

I would like to read more about the facts of the story.

I know the building is the same, but while looking at facts, can't find anything about arson or hate.
Likewise. I too found that a little strange. I can find several articles about some smokehouse restaurant that burned down in that town in 2016, but not a thing about the church.
  
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01-11-2017, 10:41 AM

Everyone who is honest knows that the bamster used race as a political tool. That fact is simply undeniable. But that's not his only social crime. He also used class, gender, Islam, and any other politically advantageous victim-class he could find to cynically exploit a hard-left political agenda.
I understand that racism still exists (and probably always will in one form or another). And I understand that is it not limited to one specific group. All groups have shitbags within it.
But it is also clear that the Left uses racial tension as a voter turnout tool. The SomeBlackLivesMatter movement is nothing more than a political weapon the Left created to intimidate weak-kneed politicians and corporations. It was built on a media advanced lie (knowingly so) that Michael Brown was shot while surrendering with his hands up (as opposed to the obvious truth that he was shot while physically assaulting a cop).
Sadly, there are still millions of poorly informed citizens in this country who believe the lie and go about their day angry about it. That's as sad as it is unnecessary and the Left is clearly to blame for it.
My tolerance for cynical race-baiting grew dim many years ago. It is nearly as dirty and evil as real racism is, because it's based on lies that are exploited by fools (like Sharpton and Jackson) to enrich themselves and keep otherwise decent folks angry and convinced that there’s no point trying to better themselves because the ‘deck is so stacked against them’.
Having spent time in the military- surrounded by guys from varying cultures, countries, and ethnic backgrounds, I know that people of good will can (and will) coexist well once they learn that those differences are not material to day-in-day-out interactions. The only thing that matters is one's honesty, personality, decency, and dependability. The other things (ethnicity, culture, etc.) only matter to folks lacking those qualities.
I absolutely loath obama. I consider him a fraud, a liar, arrogant, and possessing utter disdain for the country that elected him as well as a huge swath of its population. My contempt for him has nothing to do with the color of his skin however- don't give two shits about that. Rather, it stems from the fact that he lacks the qualities mentioned roughly four sentences above.
The damage he has done to the state of race relations in this country (intentionally so) is partly why hillary lost.
Decent folks have grown so weary of being considered racists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc., simply because they care more about trying to find a decent job in this awful economy than they do whether a 40 year-old dude should be allowed to use the little girl’s bathroom because he's confused about his gender. They are sick and tired of being told they’re xenophobic because they don't want millions of folks streaming across our borders taking jobs for vastly less pay then they enjoyed when they had those jobs. They’re worn to the bone by being told they're racists for noticing that 99% of terrorist acts are committed in the name of radical Islam and that strictly vetting immigrants from terrorist States makes absolute sense. They’ve reached the end of their reservoir of empathy for the plight of our inner-cities when they see riots, attacks, and businesses (that serve the inhabitants) burned to the ground over obvious political lies told by the Left and their partners in the media after a young man gets shot in the commission of a violent crime. In short, they're sick of blind liberalism.
We’ll never realize the highest possible level of harmony in this country so long as there is an entire political apparatus empowered by the lack of it. Worse than that, they actually work to counter the prospects of real harmony for cynical electoral advantage.
I’m hopeful that hillary losing this election (after using many the same tactics referenced in this post) is a sign that the Left’s 60 year political strategy of divide and conquer may have finally reached its shelf-life of viability.


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Everyone who is honest knows that the bamster used race as a political tool. That fact is simply undeniable. But that's not his only social crime. He also used class, gender, Islam, and any other politically advantageous victim-class he could find to cynically exploit a hard-left political agenda.
I understand that racism still exists (and probably always will in one form or another). And I understand that is it not limited to one specific group. All groups have shitbags within it.
But it is also clear that the Left uses racial tension as a voter turnout tool. The SomeBlackLivesMatter movement is nothing more than a political weapon the Left created to intimidate weak-kneed politicians and corporations. It was built on a media advanced lie (knowingly so) that Michael Brown was shot while surrendering with his hands up (as opposed to the obvious truth that he was shot while physically assaulting a cop).
Sadly, there are still millions of poorly informed citizens in this country who believe the lie and go about their day angry about it. That's as sad as it is unnecessary and the Left is clearly to blame for it.
My tolerance for cynical race-baiting grew dim many years ago. It is nearly as dirty and evil as real racism is, because it's based on lies that are exploited by fools (like Sharpton and Jackson) to enrich themselves and keep otherwise decent folks angry and convinced that there’s no point trying to better themselves because the ‘deck is so stacked against them’.
Having spent time in the military- surrounded by guys from varying cultures, countries, and ethnic backgrounds, I know that people of good will can (and will) coexist well once they learn that those differences are not material to day-in-day-out interactions. The only thing that matters is one's honesty, personality, decency, and dependability. The other things (ethnicity, culture, etc.) only matter to folks lacking those qualities.
I absolutely loath obama. I consider him a fraud, a liar, arrogant, and possessing utter disdain for the country that elected him as well as a huge swath of its population. My contempt for him has nothing to do with the color of his skin however- don't give two shits about that. Rather, it stems from the fact that he lacks the qualities mentioned roughly four sentences above.
The damage he has done to the state of race relations in this country (intentionally so) is partly why hillary lost.
Decent folks have grown so weary of being considered racists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc., simply because they care more about trying to find a decent job in this awful economy than they do whether a 40 year-old dude should be allowed to use the little girl’s bathroom because he's confused about his gender. They are sick and tired of being told they’re xenophobic because they don't want millions of folks streaming across our borders taking jobs for vastly less pay then they enjoyed when they had those jobs. They’re worn to the bone by being told that noticing that 99% of terrorist acts are committed in the name of radical Islam and that strictly vetting immigrants from terrorist States makes absolute sense. They’ve reached the end of their reservoir of empathy for the plight of our inner-cities when they see riots, attacks, and businesses (that serve the inhabitants) burned to the ground over obvious political lies told by the Left and their partners in the media after a young man gets shot in the commission of a violent crime. In short, they're sick of blind liberalism.
We’ll never realize the highest possible level of harmony in this country so long as there is an entire political apparatus empowered by the lack of it. Worse than that, they actually work to counter the prospects of real harmony for cynical electoral advantage.
I’m hopeful that hillary losing this election (after using many the same tactics referenced in this post) is a sign that the Left’s 60 year political strategy of divide and conquer may have finally reached its shelf-life of viability.
If you read Saul Alinsky it becomes plain that Obama was a wannabee Saul. In empires that do contain a lot of " diversity " it is plain where socialism will lead.

One needs to look no farther than what happened under the Bolshevik reign of terror in the Soviet Union.

PBO was a pragmatist and did not try to get too radical but my feeling is he would do much more if he could get away with it.

It is very ironic that the New Dealers had a love affair with the Soviet Union and now that Putin has moved far from the mass horrors of communism the Demos and Neo-Cons want his scalp.

I am not a fan of Putin but I am not a Russian. Regarding the burning of this church the facts remain very sketchy. We need more info.
  
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Regarding the burning of this church the facts remain very sketchy. We need more info.
Googled this for about a half hour, found nothing and gave up. I'm really curious now about who burned this church down.


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01-11-2017, 06:00 PM

My family member was contacted by the surry county sheriff! They were listed as the property contact as well as the pastor.

All information is via the sheriff of surry county. It never made the news to my knowledge.

the sheriff department of Surry county should list arrest and criminal activity? Could always just call and ask or inquiry?

But, that is what I got.

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My family member was contacted by the surry county sheriff! They were listed as the property contact as well as the pastor.

All information is via the sheriff of surry county. It never made the news to my knowledge.

the sheriff department of Surry county should list arrest and criminal activity? Could always just call and ask or inquiry?

But, that is what I got.

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Iirc, you represented that the FBI was involved. Is this still your position?
  
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My family member was contacted by the surry county sheriff! They were listed as the property contact as well as the pastor.

All information is via the sheriff of surry county. It never made the news to my knowledge.

the sheriff department of Surry county should list arrest and criminal activity? Could always just call and ask or inquiry?

But, that is what I got.

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I'm sorry this happened to your family's church. Did they still run/own it?
At least insurance will cover it -it could become a larger monument for all.
  
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01-11-2017, 07:26 PM

I’m hopeful that hillary losing this election (after using many the same tactics referenced in this post) is a sign that the Left’s 60 year political strategy of divide and conquer may have finally reached its shelf-life of viability.[/QUOTE]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne.../posts?page=28

Mississippi Church Member Charged in 'Vote Trump' Arson

By emily wagster pettus, associated press

JACKSON, Miss. — Dec 21, 2016, 4:36 PM ET

A Mississippi man arrested in the burning of an African-American church that was spray-painted with the words "Vote Trump" is a member of the congregation, the church's bishop said.



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Black implicated in desecration case
By Hugh Aynesworth | THE WASHINGTON TIMES DALLAS

A vandalism attack on a black church here seemed to have been the deciding factor in the Texas state legislature´s passing a controversial hate-crimes law earlier this month. The desecration of Dallas´ St. Luke Community United Methodist Church, home church of several prominent black political leaders, was thought to have been perpetrated by white supremacists upset by the hate-crimes rhetoric. But now Dallas police and federal investigators are looking at whether the painting of Nazi swastikas and other graffiti was actually done by a black.


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This is my grandmothers church! She bought the land and built it for the black community in Surry Virginia.





That picture was taken from 2016! During the whole rash of trump hate crime rampages.

The psychological and physical damage of years of hatred is not remedied by a out of sight out of mind policy of make believe nothing bad ever happened!

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Who ever it was.
They should have tied him to a stake and burned him alive using tar.


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I’m hopeful that hillary losing this election (after using many the same tactics referenced in this post) is a sign that the Left’s 60 year political strategy of divide and conquer may have finally reached its shelf-life of viability.
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Mississippi Church Member Charged in 'Vote Trump' Arson

By emily wagster pettus, associated press

JACKSON, Miss. — Dec 21, 2016, 4:36 PM ET

A Mississippi man arrested in the burning of an African-American church that was spray-painted with the words "Vote Trump" is a member of the congregation, the church's bishop said.



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Black implicated in desecration case
By Hugh Aynesworth | THE WASHINGTON TIMES DALLAS

A vandalism attack on a black church here seemed to have been the deciding factor in the Texas state legislature´s passing a controversial hate-crimes law earlier this month. The desecration of Dallas´ St. Luke Community United Methodist Church, home church of several prominent black political leaders, was thought to have been perpetrated by white supremacists upset by the hate-crimes rhetoric. But now Dallas police and federal investigators are looking at whether the painting of Nazi swastikas and other graffiti was actually done by a black.


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That is the Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church in Greenville, Miss


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My family member was contacted by the surry county sheriff! They were listed as the property contact as well as the pastor.

All information is via the sheriff of surry county. It never made the news to my knowledge.

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You said it was charged as a hate crime.

A mistake?


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That is what the sheriff told my family member that they have been staying in contact with.

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01-11-2017, 07:53 PM

Why are you guys questioning KD's grandmas sad story?
He seems (and always has) like a pretty straight shooter to me.


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