Poolology Confusion

stan shuffett said:

By far, your best description of CTE that I've read. At proficiency, though, there are no steps that are discernible. It's See and align. The beauty of understanding CTE at its proficiency level is that the player knows exactly what has occurred at the subconscious level. I can just drop on a shot and align in 1 second or less having factored in 3 known lines. Our visual functioning concerning CTE happens at speeds that are faster than the fastest super computers in the world. This is precisely one of the reasons that providing explanations for aiming has been difficult not just for me but for any pro. CTE is certainly step-oriented when learning but that has to be put aside for using it at a professional level.

Stan Shuffett

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It takes a while for me to catch on.:grin-square:. I was about to edit my post to say that once a player gains enough experience with CTE, the brain should also begin building a database of shots, so that eventually most shots are already known and the body automatically goes to the correct focal point for the correct A, B, or C visuals.

I've heard you say you can use the 15 and 30 to make a wide range of varying shots. What is the approximate range of shot angles from one perspective? I understand if you'd rather not answer and let the book tell all.

Thanks.

BC21 said:

It takes a while for me to catch on.:grin-square:. I was about to edit my post to say that once a player gains enough experience with CTE, the brain should also begin building a database of shots, so that eventually most shots are already known and the body automatically goes to the correct focal point for the correct A, B, or C visuals.

I've heard you say you can use the 15 and 30 to make a wide range of varying shots. What is the approximate range of shot angles from one perspective? I understand if you'd rather not answer and let the book tell all.

Thanks.

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I have never really attempted to pin down a range for the groups. A lot of it is readily apparent. You don't shoot a 15 degree angle with a 45 perception. The truth of the matter is is that I could take any 1 line system and group any given shot into a 15 30 45 or 60. For example a 0 4 7 or 11 degree actual angle will fall into the 15s. The 15 and 30 together cover a vast array of angles till the 45 is reached. In fact, the 15 and 30 can solve an aim for practically all Cb OB relations. I can't read angles, not even a zero angle.

Stan Shuffett

stan shuffett said:

I have never really attempted to pin down a range for the groups. A lot of it is readily apparent. You don't shoot a 15 degree angle with a 45 perception. The truth of the matter is is that I could take any 1 line system and group any given shot into a 15 30 45 or 60. For example a 0 4 7 or 11 degree actual angle will fall into the 15s. The 15 and 30 together cover a vast array of angles till the 45 is reached. In fact, the 15 and 30 can solve an aim for practically all Cb OB relations. I can't read angles, not even a zero angle.

Stan Shuffett

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Ok. Thanks. I also believe that range (0 to 45° or a little more) covers practically all shots, at least the shots that should be considered very high percentage. Beyond about 60 degrees is when the player is way out of line and should consider his options based on his abilities.

The diagram looks pretty impressive. You're a good whipper-snapper-upper.

I just wanted to point out that if you're in an area that gives you bad data, the triangle method will give you the shot angle. The result can be converted into a fractional aiming point or a visual family for a pivoting system. Just pointing out there's a phillips screwdriver available if you want to use it.

The shot is actually 47.5° from the that cb location (3 diamonds away from on). If the CB were a diamond from the OB, it would take a 54° shot to target center pocket. Accounting for collision-induced throw, the shot as it is drawn should be hit thinner than a 1/4 but not as thin as a 1/8. From a diamond away from the OB, a 1/8 would probably work. There is a sweet spot (optimal distance range between CB and OB) to ensure the system's accuracy, as described in the How it All Works section of the book. Basically, for any shot from 7/8 thick to a 1/2 ball, the sweet spot distance is anywhere from about 8" to full table length. For thinner shots the sweet spot is between 8" and about 30". Beyond 30" the shots tend to be over-cut a little. But it's rarely something that'll come up, due to CIT and margin of error at the pocket.

SkinnyPete said:

Oh okay, cool trick to know. Is this something you do mentally at the table at game time?

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Yes, if I'm using a pivoting system I use it for a visual selection if it's not readily obvious to me. After using a pivoting system for a while some visuals just jump out at you. Others are not apparent until I 'draw' the triangle.

SkinnyPete said:

So to effectively use this triangle method you need to memorize right triangle leg proportions, right? This is easier than just memorizing shot angles?

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It's not hard. 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and 1/1 give 15, 25, 35, and 45 within a few degrees and 'flipped' give 55, 65, 75, and 90. With a little practice it's simple to use.

How do you make a Phillips Screwdriver? 1 jigger of vodka and 4 oz of milk of magnesia. Bottoms up! Ask your bartender for one... but never drink (or pay) for one.