TAR 38: Appleton vs Orcollo - Shot-by-Shot Statistics

Pool-Trax

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Watching TAR 38 this evening? Complement your viewing experience with our Live Shot-by-Shot Statistics. Statistics are automatically refreshed after each rack is completed to keep you up-to-the-minute.

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Click Here and then on the "Article" tab to view Key Statistics.


Half-time Update:
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After the match has completed play, click here to see the stats and Rack-by-Rack Results.

* Note: Due to technically difficulties racks 1 & 2 were not Trax'd initially.
Score Adjustments as Follows:
Racks 1 & 2 were Trax'd as Racks 51 & 52, respectively.


Final Match Statistics:
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Pool-Trax

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TAR 38, Day 3 (10-Ball): Pre-Match Statistical Analysis

With 2300 Total Shots Tracked and over 350 racks of 10-Ball played between these two players, we thought we'd share some of the statistical data we've gathered over the years on them.

Below is a quick overview of this data. To see it all visit the TAR 38 Event Page. You'll find many links with much, much more info and statistical analysis.

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Chesscat

AzB Silver Member
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stay at table

I don't know all your abbreviations so maybe you already put this info out. But an interesting statistic would be % wins after staying at table on break. In other words, if you don't break dry and you don't foul, that is if you make a ball and don't foul, what % of games do you win?

Dennis for example Stayed at the Table 20 out of his 30 breaks. He broke and ran 12 times, so that leaves 8 games where he stayed at the table and didn't run out. How many of those 8 games did he win? It would just be interesting to know that if he makes a ball after the break and didn't foul, is he like the 98% favorite? Interesting stat.

Darren Stayed at the Table only 10 of 22 breaks. That sounds pretty awful. But of the ten times he made a ball and didn't foul, how many games did he win? He broke and ran 6 games, so out of the 4 other SaT games, how many did he win?

Was this rack your own?
 
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Pool-Trax

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I don't know all your abbreviations so maybe you already put this info out. But an interesting statistic would be % wins after staying at table on break. In other words, if you don't break dry and you don't foul, that is if you make a ball and don't foul, what % of games do you win?

Dennis for example Stayed at the Table 20 out of his 30 breaks. He broke and ran 12 times, so that leaves 8 games where he stayed at the table and didn't run out. How many of those 8 games did he win? It would just be interesting to know that if he makes a ball after the break and didn't foul, is he like the 98% favorite? Interesting stat.

Darren Stayed at the Table only 10 of 22 breaks. That sounds pretty awful. But of the ten times he made a ball and didn't foul, how many games did he win? He broke and ran 6 games, so out of the 4 other SaT games, how many did he win?

Was this rack your own?


Chesscat, those would be great numbers to have. These are actually available on the website on the Match Details page. More details about most of the stats will pop-up if you hover your mouse over any given statistic on this page. If you are on a mobile device, some browsers (like Chrome on Androids) will let you tap a stat to bring up the pop-up that would normally appear as if you were hovering your mouse over it. This, however, is not supported on all browsers/devices. Just in case you can't see 'em, in Saturday's 8-Ball match, here's the extra data that comes up by hovering over the SaT statistic for each player:

Darren Appleton:
"Stayed at Table 45.5% of the time.
Of these, this player went on to win 6 of these racks - 60%.
SaT followed by pocketing first ball 10 out of 22 break(s) - 45.5%."

Dennis Orcollo:
"Stayed at Table 66.7% of the time.
Of these, this player went on to win 15 of these racks - 75%.
SaT followed by pocketing first ball 18 out of 30 break(s) - 60%."

The last line in each situation ("SaT followed by pocketing first ball...") is also represented graphically in the breaking charts by the 1st/2nd green sections. This simply means they broke legally, pocketing a ball, and were able to knock down their first shot after the break (indicating a break with position) and that they didn't push out (in 9-ball/10-ball, not applicable here).
 

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
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No offense but most of the data on the match is completely wrong.

Your rack by rack results have Rack 1 going to Dennis after Darren had a dry break. It then has Dennis with a BnR to win rack 2. This is wrong, they split the first two games as the score was 1-1 after 2 games.

There is a ton of other data that is simply wrong. You have Darren recorded as having won the last rack (rack # 52), how did that happen given he "lost" the match? It would seem to fall to reason that Dennis won the last rack of the match no?

There are people who have action on these matches. Releasing data that is completely wrong can screw those people royally and honestly if the data you track is completely wrong what value does it have?
 

benny-the-blade

AzB Silver Member
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No offense but most of the data on the match is completely wrong.

Your rack by rack results have Rack 1 going to Dennis after Darren had a dry break. It then has Dennis with a BnR to win rack 2. This is wrong, they split the first two games as the score was 1-1 after 2 games.

There is a ton of other data that is simply wrong. You have Darren recorded as having won the last rack (rack # 52), how did that happen given he "lost" the match? It would seem to fall to reason that Dennis won the last rack of the match no?

There are people who have action on these matches. Releasing data that is completely wrong can screw those people royally and honestly if the data you track is completely wrong what value does it have?

He mentions that the last two racks on the list are actually Racks 1 and 2 of the match, due to the streaming issues last night.
 

Chesscat

AzB Silver Member
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Stats

Good info!

So it looks like Darren, of the 10 racks (of 22 total breaks) that he made a ball and didn't foul, ran out 6 times and lost all 4 times he didn't run out.

Dennis, of the 20 racks (of 30 total breaks) that he made a ball and didn't foul, ran out 12 times, and of the 8 times he didn't run out, he won 3 and lost 5.

Not a lot of safety play in 8 ball it would seem.
 

Pool-Trax

Shot-by-Shot Statistics
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No offense but most of the data on the match is completely wrong.

Your rack by rack results have Rack 1 going to Dennis after Darren had a dry break. It then has Dennis with a BnR to win rack 2. This is wrong, they split the first two games as the score was 1-1 after 2 games.

There is a ton of other data that is simply wrong. You have Darren recorded as having won the last rack (rack # 52), how did that happen given he "lost" the match? It would seem to fall to reason that Dennis won the last rack of the match no?

There are people who have action on these matches. Releasing data that is completely wrong can screw those people royally and honestly if the data you track is completely wrong what value does it have?
Celtic. I apologize for the confusion. benny-the-blade was correct in his explanation. While all the statistics here were calculated correctly, due to technical difficulties we weren't able to capture the 1st two racks until after the completion of the match. Therefore, Racks #51 & #52 were truly racks #1 & #2 in reality. Since neither player began stringing racks together in either of the first two racks, statistical integrity could be maintained by simply capturing the first two racks' statistics in the loop (after the match).

Consequently, the only inaccurate data resulted in:
1.) # of each rack in the Rack-by-Rack Results
2.) The rack any given package started on (obviously just add 2 racks)
3.) The Balls Pocketed graph - Racks 51 & 52 should be Racks 1 & 2.

Again, we apologize for any confusion this may cause and thank you for the opportunity to bring further clarification to this matter.
 

Pool-Trax

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Day 3 (10-Ball): Halftime Statistical Update - All Tied Up

Click Here for our continued Live Shot-by-Shot Statistical coverage of this great match.

Remember, once the match has completed, these additional stats and Rack-by-Rack Results will be located on a different page - here.

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Pool-Trax

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TAR 38 Day 3 (10-Ball): Post Match Statistics

Shot-by-Shot Stats & Rack-by-Rack Results are now available here.

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