I actually agree with you, at least in regards to CJ. I really do not know that much AT ALL about Fran and I no way could I make even a semi - educated statement. But honestly imho, with the years of gambling, countless miles on the road, all the hustles, I'm not sure one could put a price on the vast knowledge CJ has but I can say one thing for sure though - those few people he chooses to bestow his knowledge on are very very lucky. Maybe, some of the others have the drills down to a science and maybe can help you with your " fundamentals but I say if you want a real true champion teaching you real world stuff that you just can't read out of a book but rather takes a lifetime of gambling, hustling, and being a true for real champion to gather that knowledge I honestly believe you will be hard pressed to get that from any of those mentioned but CJ!