It's Steve Klapp. Thanks!
I saw one from Steve Klapp. Maybe Brent Hartman too.
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Is that cracked?
Steve did that one
after visiting my shop
Which is the reason that I don't invite other CMs into my shop.
Please understand that I'm NOT suggesting design theft; heaven forbid.
It's about human nature and the sub-conscious mind.
A CM (or anyone for that matter) can catch just a glimse of something
out of the corner of their eye and it gets buried in the sub-conscious.
A year or two later, the CM thinks he's just imagined a new design for
ring-work or whatever. It can lead to a lot of frustration.
I don't mind cuemakers coming to my shop. I just don't have time to teach them much. If they learn something from looking around that is fine with me as I know they can learn it from a close up picture like posted above easy enough. There are not many secrets that can't be figured out with the multitude of cuemakers out there now.
Which is the reason that I don't invite other CMs into my shop.
Please understand that I'm NOT suggesting design theft; heaven forbid.
It's about human nature and the sub-conscious mind.
A CM (or anyone for that matter) can catch just a glimse of something
out of the corner of their eye and it gets buried in the sub-conscious.
A year or two later, the CM thinks he's just imagined a new design for
ring-work or whatever. It can lead to a lot of frustration.
Yes, I will be deliberately provocative with this post. I being strangely reminded of that cue maker symposium and someone asking about LD shafts.
Boy, each and everyone showed that they are not worthy of a cent being spent on them and secondly that they still even don't understand the why after making cues for ages.
Carom players have LD cues for over 30 years now.
And now to this post:
I think that this post shows something I have never, cannot and quite possibly will never understand.
Do you honestly think that decorations, rings, ornaments can, should or must be some kind of "trademark" or heaven forbid the worst term "intellectual property"?
Even the MOST random ones that are shown in the picture? I know that making this takes skill, but the idea is pretty random, I'm very sorry.
I'm all for using design(s) that someone finds nice. I'm also for copying. Please also copy me! I couldn't care less. Or are you invoking a strange kind of "code of conduct" that cue maker are (still?) adhering to?
"No, I will not make you this decorations, they are only done by Joe WhatsHisName and the waitlist is 1 year..."
If history tells you one thing it's that at a given point in time with the available knowledge more than one man will come up with the exact same idea, even if they don't know each other.
Please accept that, even embrace it.
If you have produced something and let it out into the world you have basically set it free to be copied, evolved, improved upon.
Cheers,
M
Yes, I will be deliberately provocative with this post. I being strangely reminded of that cue maker symposium and someone asking about LD shafts.
Boy, each and everyone showed that they are not worthy of a cent being spent on them and secondly that they still even don't understand the why after making cues for ages.
Carom players have LD cues for over 30 years now.
And now to this post:
I think that this post shows something I have never, cannot and quite possibly will never understand.
Do you honestly think that decorations, rings, ornaments can, should or must be some kind of "trademark" or heaven forbid the worst term "intellectual property"?
Even the MOST random ones that are shown in the picture? I know that making this takes skill, but the idea is pretty random, I'm very sorry.
I'm all for using design(s) that someone finds nice. I'm also for copying. Please also copy me! I couldn't care less. Or are you invoking a strange kind of "code of conduct" that cue maker are (still?) adhering to?
"No, I will not make you this decorations, they are only done by Joe WhatsHisName and the waitlist is 1 year..."
If history tells you one thing it's that at a given point in time with the available knowledge more than one man will come up with the exact same idea, even if they don't know each other.
Please accept that, even embrace it.
If you have produced something and let it out into the world you have basically set it free to be copied, evolved, improved upon.
Cheers,
M
Until you posses creative talent and the ability to execute you will never understand. If everyone shared your beliefs then cuemaking would be further in the shitter than it already is. You don't care if anyone copies anything you've done because you havent done anything worthy of copying or that your heart is in. So yeah....you'll probably never understand.
Again, I highly acknowledge that this ringwork takes experience and skill.
And still, I would not accept to call this a "trademark" or even any protectable work by any law.
I also gladly pick a fight with cuemakers, because a lot (not all) have still not understood what it's about and I will gladly remind them of that.
And I'm actually happy that the cue market is shitty, as you call it, and lots of people are selling their customs again after quite a short while.
You get NOTHING for design or feeling special or using some obscure stuff or ringwork that has no functionality at all.
You get EVERYTHING for doing exactly what the customer wants (funky ringwork!) to have in the end, to find a solution for his wishes and for executing your work in a better manner than the rest of the bunch and being forthcomming when there's a problem with your product.
That's why you get the money, to realise an image a customer has in mind.
I do work creatively, albeit not in billards nor with wood. I do computer stuff and everything I do is done in an open source manner. It takes years of experience and learning, so I'd like to think it can directly be compared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_model
I also work with cars and again, everything I do or know is available and I post on forums, so it gets shared knowledge and is being improved upon.
I am proud of what I can do and especially about all the little things on how to do stuff. What I'm even more proud of is to find solutions for strange problems or how to diagnose them.
But don't have the flaw to think I'm special or unique or anything I do is so special.
Cheers,
M
But don't have the flaw to think I'm special or unique or anything I do is so special.
hold on there fellas
i'm not sqauwking about it
it wasnt a blatant ripoff
steve did his twist on some that i was working on.
a year later he forgot about that i think
said to me "oh you're doing rings like i do now"