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Would you play this break ball? - 11-16-2017, 03:48 PM

And would you play it against Thorsten Hohmann? Jeanette Lee's got...
well...
guts! And skills. I didn't even think it went, but she actually overcut it!

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11-16-2017, 04:04 PM

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11-16-2017, 04:26 PM

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Howdya hit it, David?



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11-16-2017, 04:52 PM

The problem with that shot is you have to hit it so hard that a ball or balls with come out of the stack and hit the break ball.
Been there and done that.
And no I would play a safe.


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11-16-2017, 04:59 PM

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The problem with that shot is you have to hit it so hard that a ball or balls with come out of the stack and hit the break ball.
Been there and done that.
And no I would play a safe.
Right. While she was getting into position, I was trying to figure out what safety she was playing? Then she hit the shot. It looked like a 90 degree cut. And it had enough speed to get to the pocket.
  
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11-16-2017, 05:21 PM

For Jeannette to beat Thorsten, she HAS to go for that shot.
...she’s gotta keep him in his chair.


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11-16-2017, 05:57 PM

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For Jeannette to beat Thorsten, she HAS to go for that shot.
...she’s gotta keep him in his chair.
Maybe, but I've seen Thorsten play some questionable safeties over the years. He's a god, but if there's any weakness, it might be safety play.
  
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11-17-2017, 08:14 AM

99% of my 14.1 is practicing alone and I don't play safe. That attitude carries over to the infrequent occasions when I play against an opponent.

I'd probably shoot it and not like the outcome.
  
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11-17-2017, 09:19 AM

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Howdya hit it, David?

If I was to play the breakshot, the above is the way I'd try to do it. It still a fairly low percentage (for straight pool), but at least if you hit the right spot, you'll make it.

Cutting it, there are just too many things that can go wrong. I've seen the ball roll off, or more frequently other balls directly come out of the rack and hit it. No way I'm shooting that shot, though, I feel I can make the cut most of the time.
  
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11-18-2017, 04:56 PM

Never in a million years would I hit that break ball.

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11-22-2017, 01:02 PM

I learned something from a similar situation that came up during last night's practice session. I had a slightly less severe cut than Jeanette Lee's but not only was the break ball closer to the rack, it was also in a position where the cue ball after collision would contact the rack on the underside of a ball (4-ball in pics) rather than the middle or top of a ball. The break ball was on its way to the pocket but the cue ball, which had more speed, chased it down-table and interfered. So perhaps a break ball in a position just half of an inch higher or an inch or so lower might have allowed the cue ball to stay put and not interfere. Good to know for next time!

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11-23-2017, 12:15 AM

I'm a very aggressive 14.1 player....FAR more aggressive than my actual ability. I lose a lot because of it. I'd play it all day long against a weak opponent that can't reliably run 10 or more balls. I'd play safe against Thorsten.
  
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11-23-2017, 05:43 AM

you have to be kidding
i didn't even think it would go

if i made a shotlike that i would lose my spot
what could be worse than that"
  
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11-23-2017, 09:18 AM

what about hitting the object ball off the rack.
  
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11-23-2017, 09:58 AM

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I'm a very aggressive 14.1 player....FAR more aggressive than my actual ability. I lose a lot because of it. I'd play it all day long against a weak opponent that can't reliably run 10 or more balls. I'd play safe against Thorsten.
To me, this is backwards....if you’re playing a weaker player, play safe....
...if you don’t think you can win the safety battle, maybe you aren’t the better player.

To beat a superior player, you have to play aggressive.


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