Blew BIH on 3 balls/WWYD?

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3RAILKICK

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Last night's episode of 'couldn't get there'.





Chose to draw off the 7. Got dead straight on 8, cb near mouth of pocket about half a diamond down the short rail on the 9ball side. Pocked 8, slow rolled forward to first diamond short of the corner. Attempted cross side on 9, hit a point, sold out.

What would be your more reliable pattern?

note...drew off 7...long rail, long rail, short rail(landed on short rail almost frozen)/9ball about 3/8 inch off the rail.


...blew another one...dang:(
 
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westcoast

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even though it is just 3 balls, this isn't the easiest runout. I think I may have tried to have a little angle on the 8 ball (meaning top English to come down to the bottom of the table as shown in the graphic) to roll up close to the 9 to run the 9 down into the corner. Again, this isn't the easiest of 3 ball runouts. Nothing to be ashamed of if you get out of line on this in my opinion.
 
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TX Poolnut

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I would try the same thing. I draw with english. Cut the 8 and cross bank the 9 into the side pocket.

If I'm playing safe, it would be to bank the 8 to the opposite side of the table creating distance. He's going to have to come with two good shots to win.
 
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2andOUT

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I like shooting in top left corner with left english to come out of the bottom left corner 2 rails to get on 8. then draw back to side rail to shoot 9 in same corner as the 7.

this is assuming you had BIH as the title stated. Start with cue ball a diamond more to the right than where the picture shows it now.
 
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victorl

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Personally, I would place the cue ball about 3 inches to the left of where it is in the picture and shoot the 7 into the top left corner with high and maybe a touch of right, aiming to hit the bottom rail about 2 diamonds from the bottom right pocket. Then make the 8 with follow (maybe a touch of left again) for shape on the 9 in the top right corner. (If I get very straight on the 8, I'd follow forward for shape on the 9 in the top left corner instead.)

On second thought, 7 in the bottom left corner with running english going three rails for shape is pretty reliable as well, and harder to mess up.
 
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Baxter

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Bob Jewett threw out a statistic in a thread that stuck in my head. The player that chose to draw the cue ball with BIH lost the game the majority of the time. With BIH, I would play the 7 in the same pocket but with an angle to hit it with top right and come 2 rails to the underside of the 8 ball. From there, I could hit the 8 with top and play the 9 down rail past the side pocket, eliminating the risk associated with trying to cross-side bank the 9.
 
poolhustler

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Depends on the table conditions and speed. On my table I shoot the 7 with top inside, two rails down as straight in as possible on the 8. 8 in the upper right corner and the 9 is straight in in the upper left corner.

Easy peasy :)
 
poolhustler

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Baxter said:
Bob Jewett threw out a statistic in a thread that stuck in my head. The player that chose to draw the cue ball with BIH lost the game the majority of the time. With BIH, I would play the 7 in the same pocket but with an angle to hit it with top right and come 2 rails to the underside of the 8 ball. From there, I could hit the 8 with top and play the 9 down rail past the side pocket, eliminating the risk associated with trying to cross-side bank the 9.
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Sorry, didn't read all the replies.... DOH

great minds think alike :)
 
branpureza

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This is probably the easiest way out.
 

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buckshotshoey

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branpureza said:
This is probably the easiest way out.
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Kind of like this. But the 9 ball does not have to go upper right. Pocket 8 in upper right, roll cue ball to top rail, and 9 goes to upper left. Less forcing of the cue ball, and whrre the 9 is, the side pocket titties won't come into play.
 
victorl

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I find things are usually more fun when titties come into play though...

Bad joke, sorry... anyway, personally I prefer not shooting down a rail across the face of the side pocket, especially on an older table.
 
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Masayoshi

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I like the 1 or 2 rails to the 8 getting only a small angle to play the short side of the 9. Its much easier than trying too hard to get perfect. I tend to prefer bringing the cue ball to the short rail with spin because it makes speed control a bit easier.

Depending on the the exact position of the 7, sometimes it is ok to shoot it in one of the pockets by that 8 with follow. This way, you can guarantee yourself good shape on the 8 even though making the shot becomes a little more difficult. That shot would be best if the normal 1 rail angle is too thick or the cue ball comes too close to the side pocket for comfort.
 
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buckshotshoey

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victorl said:
I find things are usually more fun when titties come into play though...

Bad joke, sorry... anyway, personally I prefer not shooting down a rail across the face of the side pocket, especially on an older table.
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Lol! But you have to remember the old saying...."If it has tities or tires, its going to cause you trouble!" Pool tables included!

Since the 9 wasn't froze to the rail, I wouldn't hesitate. After all, its only a few inches difference from either pocket.
 
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7forlife

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I'm sorry but this sound like another case of the commentator always getting out.

I would play it a bit harder or softer next time so as not to end up straight in on the next ball
 
book collector

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Baxter said:
Bob Jewett threw out a statistic in a thread that stuck in my head. The player that chose to draw the cue ball with BIH lost the game the majority of the time. With BIH, I would play the 7 in the same pocket but with an angle to hit it with top right and come 2 rails to the underside of the 8 ball. From there, I could hit the 8 with top and play the 9 down rail past the side pocket, eliminating the risk associated with trying to cross-side bank the 9.
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This was in my memory bank also , not sure where it came from, could have also been Bob from many years ago.
 
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3RAILKICK said:
Last night's episode of 'couldn't get there'.





Chose to draw off the 7. Got dead straight on 8, cb near mouth of pocket about half a diamond down the short rail on the 9ball side. Pocked 8, slow rolled forward to first diamond short of the corner. Attempted cross side on 9, hit a point, sold out.

What would be your more reliable pattern?

note...drew off 7...long rail, long rail, short rail(landed on short rail almost frozen)/9ball about 3/8 inch off the rail.


...blew another one...dang:(
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I would get from the 7 to the 8 like this. How you get on the 9 depends on how you get on the 8 but if it ended up like this I would go two rails up and back down for the 9.


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ONB
 
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