I watched all of your YouTube clips a couple of years back. I had dvd1 years ago. The clip I'm referring to is probably only 3 yrs old. It's not the same clip Dan analyzed last year or whenever. I noticed it was not a 1/2 ball shot when I first saw it 2 or 3 years ago, which told me something else was happening in order to make the shot work.
Like I said, using that clip of that one shot, or the clip Dan analyzed, anyone could win your bet unless a blind man was judging it. But that's just one shot by one player, and it doesn't mean CTE requires such last second tweaks. You probably didn't even know you were spinning it. But if anybody sets the shot up and shoots for a half ball hit, they'll hit it short of the pocket every time, especially stunning it as you do. Outside spin is needed to correct this.
In the video that Dan dissected, that first shot, Stan said he was using a former aiming system and not CTE.
You are right though, there are some other shots where a redirect or tweak or twist is put on the CB. In the video called pivoting for CTE pro1, I believe at around the 7-8 minute mark, Stan cuts the 1 ball to the right down the rail and puts what I know for a fact, a funky inside redirect mojo to the CB. This is what I determined as a inward angle attack that is part of a 3 angle method I developed myself and believe it's necessary and we all do it knowingly or unknowingly.
Now, for the record, Stan in said video, is talking and demonstrating the different approaches and stroke alignments to make some points about progressions and simplicity's and he correctly describes the various stroke and stance position offsets that work as a form of a pivot or offsetting a manual type pivot etc etc and how some of those positions produce a unnatural stroke position and feel. I know this because it's what I personally do myself to offset for extreme English and allow my visual alignment to remain relatively the same for any shot requirement and I also try to do what Stan also accurately said is not easy or recommend, and that is to align myself physically to every shot since I don't "aim". I think that is the best approach but obviously much more involved. I spin the shyte out of a CB, so that's my approach and methodology.
With that said, when making a point and talking at the same time, Stan comes into that 1 ball thick. That shot from that side of the table is notorious for a right handed player to visually come in thick that way and Stan's elbow angle is dead straight down the line and his instinct applied the necessary redirect inward and sure as hell not outward or as you say "outside spin" because I know for a fact that will only thicken the shot even worse unless you really spin the CB damn near at miscue limit, thus proving that outside and inside English does not always act as a "cutter" because its relative to stroke angle and alignment and not a fckn low deflection or high deflection stick or whatever the hell the pool world calls it. Parallel or bhe or whatever is all relative and at the end of the day, spin is spin and a term is not what creates effects, the shooter creates the effect.
But that is another point that is related to the argument.
Stan is talking and making a point and I find it hard to believe he rarely misses in doing so, so I understand what's going on in some of his shots in question and I say it's totally excusable when considering the overwhelming majority of his executions are in fact straight center ball shots. So, I believe Stan would easily win the bet.
However, CTE might be the visual or is the visual obviously, but the offset is in fact stroke angle with elbow in or out and or down the line and that's my argument and not saying CTE is bullshit, just saying alignment is the system but that's my bid, not anyone else's and Stan or Hoole is right, when shooting truly down the line center or square, one of 3 things is in fact occurring in the visual pipeline of center to edge or edge to center or I forgot the other one, for shots up to 45 degrees etc, so it's not a invention but rather a discovery of something already there. I noted this the other day when sqweezing out the shotline and Stan is right, many are doing CTE even if they don't know it.
If it's not there, then one is applying a funky twist or English to compensate and of course, I also say that is a recommended requirement for 100% CB command. So I don't argue method, but I will argue bottomline facts. The one I got the biggest problem with is "sqwirt" as if it's a thing rather than a occurrence. One does not have to succumb to a "thing" and the remedy sure as hell isnt a hollowed out popsicle stick.
For the record, is Stan brought is elbow "in" or even "out" on that 1 ball shot, it would have went a long way in making the shot without having to put a inward hitch on the stroke but im sure Stan knows that and I don't think it would roll the cb square down the line either because his alignment was too thick to begin with but when demonstrating and talking and moving along quickly with the video, I don't fault him or say he's bullshitting with tweaking. 99.5% of his shots are in fact straight with center ball and the measles don't lie and the man ain't GOD where evry shot is going to be perfect no matter what method.
