tilt head or parallel head
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With all due respect, you didn't say much at all to form a opinion on what one should think.
How about separating eyes on given shot relationships to achieve different effects? So with that being said, I can pose a question to you and that is, is your statements based on a certain level of play or what is possible for maximum expectation?
The only thing I found interesting was your claim of miss bias of thick or thin vs pro or amateur. I find it interesting because I don't see why it should be a contention of fact when it comes to reality unless it's a matter of statistics.
A quarter of the planet believes in a bearded god in the sky and that doesn't make it any more real than what is actually relative in reality. If a pro is missing thin on the incorrect side of the standard mean, is he or she missing incorrectly? A miss is a miss and what you're saying is relevant but I don't see how its constructive. The constructive point would be to say that the misses coincide with a particular side of the table and shot angle because I seriously doubt its a matter of consistent "thick" no matter what. Not on average, it can't be for amateurs and that's for sure and I digress pros as well but I can understand a desparity between the two because the pro is more aware and the miss bias skewed to one side is a constructive miss based on trying to fix a known problem aware to them.
This book from what I see in this thread is interesting and does touch on a subject of extreme importance but I don't know if it's a solve book but it certainly looks like one that can take a person toward solve if they sincerely try now that they got some awareness of fact. The eyes in conjunction with delivery is not discussed nearly enough.
Thanks. Just my opinions.
Good thoughts and food for insight. I did give my opinion of each Kranicki point as I understood them, and also asked "what do you think?" so I'm not sure what you meant by 'I didn't say much to allow the formation of opinions".
I didn't say pros miss thick--they don't miss too often, do they? I said weaker players overcut and stronger players tend to miss hits more thickly. This is not a random belief but the result of observations thousands of amateur players and coaching hundreds of students personally.
I'm not sure what you mean by "separating eyes". Do you mean moving the head off vision center aka line of sight per shot requirements? Not trying to argue with you, just seeking clarification. I personally advocate setting the head where you need it while standing erect--or nearly so--and then lowering the head vertically into the stance with little horizontal movement--exactly as Kranicki suggests.
PS. Who told you God has a beard? And who told you 25% of people believe in God? I find the number approaches 95-98% depending on how you count.
I try not to broach religion on the forums but since you raised the issue--you shouldn't believe in sky gods because others believe, correct. So I trust Jesus Christ from two perspectives: the inescapable logic of the Bible and its proofs in fulfilled prophecy, and the fact that man cannot make utopia on his own, and needs the transformation provided by Christ's death and resurrection to have hope of moral perfection and to be a citizen of Heaven.
I didn't say pros miss thick--they don't miss too often, do they? I said weaker players overcut and stronger players tend to miss hits more thickly. This is not a random belief but the result of observations thousands of amateur players and coaching hundreds of students personally.
I'm not sure what you mean by "separating eyes". Do you mean moving the head off vision center aka line of sight per shot requirements? Not trying to argue with you, just seeking clarification. I personally advocate setting the head where you need it while standing erect--or nearly so--and then lowering the head vertically into the stance with little horizontal movement--exactly as Kranicki suggests.
PS. Who told you God has a beard? And who told you 25% of people believe in God? I find the number approaches 95-98% depending on how you count.
I try not to broach religion on the forums but since you raised the issue--you shouldn't believe in sky gods because others believe, correct. So I trust Jesus Christ from two perspectives: the inescapable logic of the Bible and its proofs in fulfilled prophecy, and the fact that man cannot make utopia on his own, and needs the transformation provided by Christ's death and resurrection to have hope of moral perfection and to be a citizen of Heaven.
Regardless of aiming method (not sure about CTE though), this is how your eyes and brain work together. The setup on the left shows a 1/2 ball shot, as illustrated by the green arrow. The black dot is ghost ball and the red dots are contact points/patches.
Standing with your nose behind the CB gives your brain a couple of 2D images from two different perspectives, which allows it to create the perception of a makeshift 3D view. Does the Kranicki book go into detail about the effects of eye dominance on this perception making process?
Standing with your nose behind the CB gives your brain a couple of 2D images from two different perspectives, which allows it to create the perception of a makeshift 3D view. Does the Kranicki book go into detail about the effects of eye dominance on this perception making process?
thanks i will test and try all of this..looking for improvment..by the way is it good or require to use both eyes when aiming or sighting when im d0wn on the shot..converges left and right eye work together or just use 1eye d d0minant ang ignore what the other eye see..if you search on youtube and find the vision theraphy bates method..both eyes use
The Kranicki book details answers to both your questions re: eye dominance and one dominant eye with the head turned to shield the non-dominant eye from taking over (completely).
Cool. I'll order the book. Knowledge is power.
Thought of another interesting "perspective" this afternoon.
Stand on a street corner or in a large room and align yourself with a nearby and a distant object (or just align a cut shot in the pool stance). If you rotate your head you will tend to see the same perspective throughout rotation (your eyes tend to swivel in your head and your dominant eye, if you have one, tends to balance with your non-dominant eye and etc.) Only if you are disciplined enough to move your eyes to point with your nose will the apparent alignment of the objects shift.
If you move your head laterally, however, even slightly, things really "move" in your vision. Therefore, if you use the same stance for all easy-to-reach shots (such as stick on shot line, torso and trunk 35 degrees to the shot line and so on), you must keep your line of sight aka vision center consistently over the line too, or straight shots will look like cuts and vice versa!
Stand on a street corner or in a large room and align yourself with a nearby and a distant object (or just align a cut shot in the pool stance). If you rotate your head you will tend to see the same perspective throughout rotation (your eyes tend to swivel in your head and your dominant eye, if you have one, tends to balance with your non-dominant eye and etc.) Only if you are disciplined enough to move your eyes to point with your nose will the apparent alignment of the objects shift.
If you move your head laterally, however, even slightly, things really "move" in your vision. Therefore, if you use the same stance for all easy-to-reach shots (such as stick on shot line, torso and trunk 35 degrees to the shot line and so on), you must keep your line of sight aka vision center consistently over the line too, or straight shots will look like cuts and vice versa!
What book? Lol I was searching google over and over for kanicki then i tried kranicki and found Richard Kranicki
Answers to a Pool Player's Prayers, is that the book?
Yes, that is the book title.
Just browse through the thread.
Someone advocate not having the cue immediately below the chin which is contrary to what snooker players believed in. Look at Steve Davis.
I personally do not believe in the exact location where the cue is below the head. There are no two distinct aiming points on the cue stick for you to aim with unlike a rifle. To me, that boils down to aiming with a gut feel.
In one of my thread in the Main forum, I asked how to aim with a cue at a point accurately. How to measure and know that you are bullseye each time you aimed at a point. If you can ascertain (using a laser for example) that you are aiming consistently with a particular stance, then maintain that stance for all your shots. You can then be certain you are spot on with your aim. If you cannot make the ball, then the error is down to two possible or a combination of both factors :
1. Aiming system or,
2. Not striking in the centre of the ball.
I believe if you look at it from this angle, your game will improve.
Someone advocate not having the cue immediately below the chin which is contrary to what snooker players believed in. Look at Steve Davis.
I personally do not believe in the exact location where the cue is below the head. There are no two distinct aiming points on the cue stick for you to aim with unlike a rifle. To me, that boils down to aiming with a gut feel.
In one of my thread in the Main forum, I asked how to aim with a cue at a point accurately. How to measure and know that you are bullseye each time you aimed at a point. If you can ascertain (using a laser for example) that you are aiming consistently with a particular stance, then maintain that stance for all your shots. You can then be certain you are spot on with your aim. If you cannot make the ball, then the error is down to two possible or a combination of both factors :
1. Aiming system or,
2. Not striking in the centre of the ball.
I believe if you look at it from this angle, your game will improve.
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There is a reason I'm uncomfortable teaching "shoot pool like you sight on a rifle".
For rifle shooting over a distance without a scope, I get the front sight crisp in my vision and place the sight over a distant, blurry target. The reverse is true for pool shooting if you are "object ball last". You want to see the object ball target path clearly while (maybe) catching your cue ball and pool cue with your peripheral vision during the stroke.