Cue identification - Cognoscenti?

Since1989

Since1989

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Hi all,

I apologize in advance if this belongs in another sub-forum...

I've been offered the chance to purchase what appears to be an early Cognoscenti cue, however the silver stitch ring style doesn't look quite like Joe's other cues. The cue features a light green G-10 pin and contains no weight bolt. Would anyone be able to take a look into the pictures I've attached and help identify if this cue appears to be Joe's handiwork?

https://ibb.co/ix37g5
https://ibb.co/jhjf15
https://ibb.co/nMwSg5
https://ibb.co/kZgFZQ

If anyone can provide contact information for Joe that may lead me in the right direction! I welcome all responses.
 
hang-the-9

hang-the-9

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Since1989 said:
Hi all,

I apologize in advance if this belongs in another sub-forum...

I've been offered the chance to purchase what appears to be an early Cognoscenti cue, however the silver stitch ring style doesn't look quite like Joe's other cues. The cue features a light green G-10 pin and contains no weight bolt. Would anyone be able to take a look into the pictures I've attached and help identify if this cue appears to be Joe's handiwork?

https://ibb.co/ix37g5
https://ibb.co/jhjf15
https://ibb.co/nMwSg5
https://ibb.co/kZgFZQ

If anyone can provide contact information for Joe that may lead me in the right direction! I welcome all responses.
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Looks like it, with a different ring work http://jjcue.com/cognoscenticues.htm G10 pins there also.

From the pictures the finish is high quality, wrap looks well done, if it's a copy it's by a good cue maker.
 
Since1989

Since1989

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hang-the-9 said:
Looks like it, with a different ring work http://jjcue.com/cognoscenticues.htm G10 pins there also.

From the pictures the finish is high quality, wrap looks well done, if it's a copy it's by a good cue maker.
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Thanks for the input! I know Joe rarely, if ever, marked his cues with any form of "signature" unless a metal pin was being used if I'm not mistaken.

PhilosopherKing said:
What's the length?
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57 1/2" total length with original shaft (pictured with 1 in ferrule).
 
cuesblues

cuesblues

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I've seen Cogs like that in the past.
Not my favorite ringwork by Cognoscenti, but I bet it's a Cog.
 
PhilosopherKing

PhilosopherKing

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Since1989 said:
Thanks for the input! I know Joe rarely, if ever, marked his cues with any form of "signature" unless a metal pin was being used if I'm not mistaken.



57 1/2" total length with original shaft (pictured with 1 in ferrule).
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I'd say it's likely a cog, maybe a bob hunter
 
pt109

pt109

WO double hemlock
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JoeyInCali said:
How about a picture of the most important detail?
THE SCREW.
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That's what I was thinking.
I owned that model in the 90s....and I've been in Joe's shop...
...but it's hard for me to identify the ring work in a pic.
 
Dave-Kat

Dave-Kat

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Joe's Cues are in fact 57.5" this is from well known Cog Dealer.

Nice looking cue.

-Kat,
 
pt109

pt109

WO double hemlock
Silver Member
Since1989 said:
Here you go! I had to reach out to my friend who still has the cue to get a picture of the joint.
https://ibb.co/jJMrPQ

@pt109 - you've seen this same "1-3-1" pattern in the silver stitch ring work in Joe's shop?
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It was in the 90s I was there.....and I probably didn't pay enough attention to ring detail.
...what I remember best is the shafts hanging all over...
..I'm pretty picky when I inspect those...Joe's work was great..
...he showed me his unique (to me) machine for making those shafts...
...later on, I talked a friend into buying one.
 
Q

Quesports

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If it is not a Cog I would be surprised. Joe has done different rings, pins and other things during his career. The only other builder may be Bobby Hunter who learned from Joe.. It is true that most of his cues have the standard Cog ringwork but not all.
 
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aaron.conway

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I've never seen joe use the 1-3-1 ringwork. You could easily call and ask him though. It shows all the other signs of a cog. If it's not joe, it's probably bobby, and if it's not bobby then it looks like an excellent copy. I'd still buy it.
 
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