Best "SOFT" layered tip

cuesblues

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gutshot said:
How are you measuring the durometer values?
What Shore test are you using and are you doing it by hand or with a test stand? If you aren't using a good Shore D durometer with a test stand, you values will vary wildly and not give very accurate results.
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I'm just using a little Shore D digital for $60 on eBay.
Testing by hand works fine for what I'm doing.
If I was selling tips based on the actual test vs. manufacturer, then I would get more sophisticated.

For instance years ago someone gave me a box of 15mm Lepro tips.
We started testing them and most test close to 80, which is great for a Lepro.
People love these, but I don't use Lepro period, I've been giving them away to my local tip-ferrule installer roommate.
 
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one stroke

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Kumui super soft clear , is by far and away the best tip I've played with bar none had it for over a yr now it's got a tad harder which I like never re shaped picked it a couple times more habit than anything there , I'll never change unless they change the tip

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gutshot

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Kamui SS quality has fallen off. A friend had to have Joe Blackburn cut off a new SS at BCA Vegas because it was hard. The last few tips he's gotten have been hard.
I tested a couple brand new SS and they tested as hard as a medium. They used to be such a great tip, but they changed something and they are not nearly as good as they used to be. I've heard from several cuemakers that install hundreds of Kamui's and they've all said the same thing.

one stroke said:
Kumui super soft clear , is by far and away the best tip I've played with bar none had it for over a yr now it's got a tad harder which I like never re shaped picked it a couple times more habit than anything there , I'll never change unless they change the tip

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gutshot said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Kamui SS quality has fallen off. A friend had to have Joe Blackburn cut off a new SS at BCA Vegas because it was hard. The last few tips he's gotten have been hard.
I tested a couple brand new SS and they tested as hard as a medium. They used to be such a great tip, but they changed something and they are not nearly as good as they used to be. I've heard from several cuemakers that install hundreds of Kamui's and they've all said the same thing.
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Well the only true test I'll ever believe is by playing with one Iv yet to hear anything other than it's the best tip I've played with by countless people so I'll have to wait and see when I need a new tip but that's a long ways off

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hang-the-9

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cbi1000 said:
1st, very soft and low maintenance, lol. NO SUCH THING. Soft tips, no matter who makes them, will mushroom at some point. It's the nature.

Milk Dud tips seems to hold up well and play soft too. But usually, like all soft tips, will require probably 1 trip up after a couple weeks of play.
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The Ki-Tech soft I put on has not mushroomed at all in months of use. It's actually fairly hard now and I don't use the shaft it was on anymore, but it has never mushroomed. Only time I touched it was to rough up the tip a bit a couple of times. It also stayed soft three times longer than any of the three Kamui Black Soft tips I used. It's why I recommend those tips, but I do have to say the installer is also a big part of what happens to the tip once it's put on.
 
joelpope

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http://precisiontip.com

no doubt in my mind what the best tip on the market is, Dennis Searing has taken his obsession for precision and excellence into the manufacturing of layered cue tips.

he offers a money back guarantee on multiple tip orders. he offers level of consistency and quality that simply does not exist in other layered tips

these tips will ruin you for life, at least that have done that to me. they have a feel and create an action on the cue ball that is hard to describe

http://precisiontip.com

Joel
 
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I play with the g2 soft. I love it! It covers the 3 things your looking for. I used to play with the Kamui black soft and I found that the g2 soft is better for me. the Kamui would harden and glaze over too quickly and wouldn't hold its shape as well which required more maintenance.
 
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My worst fears have been confirmed. The last 3 Kamui SS I installed all felt like the Kamui medium I had installed the day before! I let a couple of friends hit my McDermott with a Triangle on it and couldn't tell the difference between it and a SS. What has happened to Kamui QC?
 
Rackattach

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The kamui Tips absolutely suck.
The navigator were ok at best.

G2 is still the front runner

The thoroughbred is new to me I'm testing it now

The wizard Soft is excellent but plays to a medium/hard feel
 
mchnhed

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Porper composite soft are the best.
They never need trimming and they last forever.
 

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Coop1701

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I have user Kamui for awhile. They worked really well on my OB shafts. They can be rough on normal tips and mushroom easily.

However after reading some info..., I tried a Cyborg Tip. I have feel in love with this test. Over 3 months I have used it and it works really well. Chalk stays on it. You should give it a try.
 
Texas Carom Club

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No best anything,
I love moori softs and just got 2 ultraskin very softs I will be trying today
 
buckets

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TILT9 said:
that's it exactly , I ve tried various soft tips and they harden almost right away!??
what's the phenomenon that causes this?
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Natural compression from hitting balls.

Unavoidable.

I gave up on soft tips a long time ago because they're always medium-hard within a month.
 
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Bca8ball

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Best "SOFT" layered tip

Obviously the "best" of anything is subjective and tips are no exception.

I went on a Soft Tip hunt myself when I converted to the Revo shafts. Coming off the Z2 and Z3 shafts and Med tips, the Revo is considerably stiffer.
I've installed tips for years and had a wide range of choices to pick from. With two shafts I literally installed two tips at a time and compared them at full height and half heights.
Considering I play 3 leagues a week, weekend tournaments twice a month and can easily get 6 months on a tip, the cost of a tip wasn't a concern or factor. That said, if I'm dropping $20+ on a tip there needs to be an advantage/reason for doing so and I'm just not seeing it these days.
I settled on Tom Hay's UltraSkin VS (Very Soft) tip. In an attempt to describe it: It starts slightly softer than Moori S, Royal Oak S, Talisman Pro S, Kamui SS, Black Jack MS, and Moldavia S:
It settles in where the Kamui S starts and seems to hold there long enough for me.
All soft tips are going to get compressed and harder over time; there's simply nothing you can do about it. You can help prolong the enviable by never breaking with your soft tip but it will compress with normal use as well.
 
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mchnhed

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Bca8ball said:
I went on a Soft Tip hunt myself.
All soft tips are going to get compressed and harder over time.
There's simply nothing you can do about it.
It will compress with normal use as well.
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What about these "indestructible" "composite" Ram Tips from Porper?
http://www.muellers.com/Porper-Indestructible-Ram-Tip,5846.html
I wonder what materials are used?
Is it all synthetic?
I'm going to order a couple to try.
At $1.45 why not?

PS: I wonder if those Ram tips would be good for doing the World Famous "Ram Shot"?

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many I haven't tried listed in this thread - but, of the (soft) ones I've tried I like the G2 over the Kamui.
 
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