Hey guys just purchased an eclat wrapless cue with a 12.75 mm 8 piece low deflection shaft and a medium black ice peri tip on ebay. Let me tell you one thing I was blown away on the quality of the cue for the money. I would say they play just as well as a lucasi and are basically better version of the hxt player cues but all real inlays!! I would definitely recommend these cues to anyone looking to spend 2 to 3 hundred bucks.