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01-11-2018, 09:47 AM

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And yet the nice reproduction is without calculus.

Perhaps it is the end result, but the steps make the difference.

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Perhaps you missed the comment "Integrating Equation 28.3 over the ocean area ... "

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01-11-2018, 10:14 AM

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Perhaps you missed the comment "Integrating Equation 28.3 over the ocean area ... "

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Would have been nice to see it in integral form. A few steps if you will.

And yes, I did miss the English word integrating as the word
is often known for its non mathematical uses. ie 4, 5 and 6.



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01-11-2018, 10:22 AM

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Perhaps you missed the comment "Integrating Equation 28.3 over the ocean area ... "

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Also, what I think is shown as phi (my Greek is rusty, so I could be wrong what letter it is) is a Green's function.

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Through the superposition principle for linear operator problems, the convolution of a Green's function with an arbitrary function f (x) on that domain is the solution to the inhomogeneous differential equation for f (x). In other words, given a linear ordinary differential equation (ODE), L(solution) = source, one can first solve L(green) = δs, for each s, and realizing that, since the source is a sum of delta functions, the solution is a sum of Green's functions as well, by linearity of L.
So calculus is there (stealthy, unless one knows what a Green function is) before the integration mentioned.


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Would have been nice to see it in integral form. A few steps if you will.

And yes, I did miss the English word integrating as the word
is often known for its non mathematical uses. ie 4, 5 and 6.


"Integrating over an area" puts it firmly into the context of calculus ... thought you for sure could differentiate that

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01-11-2018, 01:09 PM

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"Integrating over an area" puts it firmly into the context of calculus ... thought you for sure could differentiate that

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Nope.

I am not into reading small type and would certainly
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I would have noticed an integral or derivative signs.







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I would have noticed an integral or derivative signs.





What you didn't see was the 'phi' Greek letter, or if you did, thought it was something other than a function equation, perhaps.


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Fascinating reading NPR guys explaining calculus.

  
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Fascinating reading NPR guys explaining calculus.

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Fascinating reading NPR guys explaining calculus.

Its fascinating reading leftists, especially SOFLA, explaining anything.


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Its fascinating reading leftists, especially SOFLA, explaining anything.
I'm always fascinated watching you struggle to read basic English texts with any comprehension. But I have confidence if you keep trying, eventually you'll do (a little) better.

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Fascinating reading NPR guys explaining calculus.

Nobody explained calculus to you in this thread. We pointed out where it was in the material, which you had missed. That's a bit different.

I wouldn't prejudge what others here know. I'm sure there are many surprises.

I'm not sure engineering degrees cover as much calculus as a math degree does. Maybe they do. Between complex analysis (calculus with imaginary numbers), real analysis, Lebesgue integration, and tensor analysis on manifolds, I guess I had about four years of it for my math degree.


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Nobody explained calculus to you in this thread. We pointed out where it was in the material, which you had missed. That's a bit different.

I wouldn't prejudge what others here know. I'm sure there are many surprises.

I'm not sure engineering degrees cover as much calculus as a math degree does. Maybe they do. Between complex analysis (calculus with imaginary numbers), real analysis, Lebesgue integration, and tensor analysis on manifolds, I guess I had about four years of it for my math degree.

I was the one talking about someone who studied calculus as a qualifier
for someone talking about science. Yet, no integral signs appear. No
derivatives appear. It is as if an attorney who never took calculus was
speaking as if he finessed it.

Why is that?

Perhaps someone with some understanding could provide something
showing the calculus, rather than showing what they don't know.


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01-12-2018, 04:23 AM

The oceans are 7 miles deep.

The weight of the oceans has seen resting on the ocean floor for billions of years.

The science deniers have been fabricating evidence of sea levels rising for decades.

Now this jibba jabba is accepted blindly.

The actual science behind this is no different than claiming the reason we havenít seen s real Godzilla is that he lives at the bottom of the ocean with sponge bob and has stomped the sea floor down in order to mask what simply must be there.


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The oceans are 7 miles deep.

The weight of the oceans has seen resting on the ocean floor for billions of years.

The science deniers have been fabricating evidence of sea levels rising for decades.

Now this jibba jabba is accepted blindly.

The actual science behind this is no different than claiming the reason we haven’t seen
a real Godzilla is that he lives at the bottom of the ocean with sponge bob and has
stomped the sea floor down in order to mask what simply must be there.
So. What would be the consequence of adding 1 inch to the 7 mile deep ocean.
This is something that could be expressed in a calculus equation. This something
seems beyond NPR forum posters. Why is that?

Perhaps they are students of language and not students of mathematics.

No doubt, Rachel hasn't yet provided the satisfactory answer. Rachel will also explain
Godzilla. When she puts her mind to it, all will be clarified.


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