I will say this, no one is giving him 8-7!
Now, 9-8 might be possible. Begin to see the difference?
HUGE Action match Day 3 Gabe Owen vs Danny Smith
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I will say this, no one is giving him 8-7!
Now, 9-8 might be possible. Begin to see the difference?
I will say this, no one is giving him 8-7!
Now, 9-8 might be possible. Begin to see the difference?
The math is a rule of thumb....conditions can change it.
8-7 is a weak spot on a run-out table.
Conventional wisdom said the break is worth a ball and a half....
...but if the table favors one particular pocket...it's worth a lot more.
Ronnie used to tell me the break was worth four balls to him! That's how he played good players even, with the break and shooting one handed...and won!
My personal opinion is that the break is worth two balls if you break good and very little if you don't.
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I will say this, no one is giving him 8-7!
Now, 9-8 might be possible. Begin to see the difference?
But-but-but-but, JAYYYYYYY!!
That's only a 1/4 ball difference, according to a certain highly knowledgeable One Pocket player on here..
Short Bus Russ
Little one-hole story....from the Rack
Abby Sherman was not a good player, but as sharp as anybody I've ever met.
He was getting 8-7 on the 5x10 snooker table....only when the other guy broke.
...the table roll favored the pocket closest to the counter.
They were betting a lot of money...and broke dead even...the breaker won every game.
So a friend of mine wandered into the Rack early next morning...a billiard mechanic was
leveling the table...my buddy thought about it...and bet on Sherman when the action
started again that afternoon...he won a few thou...'cause when neither pocket
favored the breaker, the weight of the 8-7 showed up.
I've seen some sharp cookies gambling...they could've ran General Motors if they
wanted to work nine to five.
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ANYBODY that could go to New Orleans and give Danny 8-7 would need a armored car to carry all the money they could win.I will say this, no one is giving him 8-7!
Now, 9-8 might be possible. Begin to see the difference?
Danny has a ton of support and money behind him in the Big Easy.
But-but-but-but, JAYYYYYYY!!
That's only a 1/4 ball difference, according to a certain highly knowledgeable One Pocket player on here..
Short Bus Russ
I guess I'd call the author of "Winning One Pocket" sort of knowledgeable, lol.
There are thousands of players out there, of all skill levels, playing 1pocket against thousands of other 1pocket players who also vary in their skill level. They all have different negotiating skills. And they are all playing on different kinds of equipment.
In some instances the spot will matter a lot and in other cases... not at all. If you don't know that, you know little about pool.
Lou Figueroa
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I appreciate the explanation of the different handicaps as I thoroughly enjoy matching up n playing one pocket. However I think it's unfortunate that this thread had anything posted at all besides the mere awesomeness of this match. It was the longest match I've ever seen or heard of. I honestly believed Danny would win the longer it went, even w 12 hour ssssions, because Danny is a freak of nature n loves to play marathon matches. I also love the fact that this match included Gabe Owen who is a former us open champ n to me fell off, so it's great to see him back in action and I truly hope he gets his high gear back!!! Thanks to all involved in putting this match together and please someone get big truck to put this match online n available to rent because I would loveeeeee to watch it beginning to end!!!
This is about your "interpretation" of what he said. His explanation was aimed at relative beginners of the game, which, by your stance on this thread, seems appropriate.
No offense, but I watched a decent portion of your match with Barton... Even though it was somewhat obvious you laid down slightly on him, your quality of play simply does not support the idea of you lecturing to anybody about the strength of certain spots. In the past, I've spotted run out 9 Ball players up to 9-6 and did just fine, when I was a younger man, and actually had time to play. I played John Morra the first round of the One Pocket the year he won the Banks event. And he was never given the chance to make a bank on me in the match, so I move just fine.
Short Bus Russ
I quoted the pertinent passage from “Winning One Pocket” which included a valuation of a 1.4% difference. Nothing to “interpret” there. Neither is there much need to interpret the fact that the value of a spot changes depending who is playing. Pretty basic stuff.
I’m not sure what my match with JB or your match with anyone has to do with this. Pretty silly stuff there.
Lou Figueroa
Not quite sure how one's skill level imparts the golden knowledge about discussing the differences in weight.
I also watched the JB/LF match, and certainly Lou is better than I am.
This doesn't necessarily make him more qualified to discuss 9-8 vs 8-7 than me.
I would agree.
And that's why I asked what my match with JB had to do with this discussion.
Lou Figueroa
Danny and Gabe's match was remarkable in every way. They and all who contributed are much appreciated by those of us who enjoy the game of one pocket. However, it is important to make reasonable comments with hope and anticipation for future contests. Handicaps are worthy of mentioning when it seems appropriate and agreeable by the players involved. Mentioning handicaps has anyone wanting to play for a sizable purse offered a handicap to Danny to lure him into a game?
But wait: what is 2 balls?
You know that fleshy lump resting on your chin?
You crazy. That's nuts.
Why wouldn't they finish the job ....??? Whoever finishes the job gets paid ! If u wanna get paid then get up , go to work and finish your JOB !!! Whoever finishes job first gets paid 10,000.00 !!!! Wish I made 10 thousand a week ! Gotta go now boss is hollering at me to get back to work folks !!!!
Lay that Floor! Lay that Floor!
You tell 'em Tony. Ain't no free lunches boy! LOL.......
You tell 'em Tony. Ain't no free lunches boy! LOL.......
You tell 'em Tony. Ain't no free lunches boy! LOL.......
Tell um to Tell um!!!!!!!
Jay-Lou challenge match! Epic... maybe but I'd watch and bet!!!! Make it happen at DCC boys ! I be there and ready to go!!!
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