Thought i'd give these a shot so i purchased two MS. I went with MS because the Tomahawk ferrule on my Schmelke is harder than the Juma on the other shaft. I think i made the right choice as the MS hits great. Firm hit, good spin and also sounds right. Fellow AZ'r Duane Remick installed it and did a great job. I'm still a big Ultraskin fan but was curious about these and for 10bux they are a good product at a fair price. For you tip-flippers out there i'd give one a try.