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PhilosopherKing

PhilosopherKing

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does follow through length dictate the distance from backhand to chest/finish position when in the set position?

is the back swing always equal to the full bridge length, according to the player's personal template?
 
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Scott Lee

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PhilosopherKing...Followthrough length, or what we call a "finish". is different for each person, and is based on several factors, such as bridge lenth, grip position, and how a person's arm works with their body, with no involvement of the shoulder. Involving the shoulder (elbow drop) leads to problems with timing and accuracy. Some pros are very effective with this technique...others have decided that a pendulum stroke is more efficient and accurate.

To your second question, that depends on the shot, but for most SOP shots, yes the backswing ends when the tip is pulled back to your bridge hand. Then you must have a smooth accelerated forward stroke which for lots of players ends with the grip hand on the chest, and the tip pointing down at the end of the stroke (some tips will be on the cloth, some just slightly angled down...depending on how high or low you stand over the cue). All of these measurements, and more, are part of one's personal shooting template. Naturally there are some shots, especially very soft finesse speed shots, where you still pull the tip back to your hand, but you modify your bridge length, and modify your grip position on the cue, to facilitate these kinds of shots

Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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PhilosopherKing said:
does follow through length dictate the distance from backhand to chest/finish position when in the set position?

is the back swing always equal to the full bridge length, according to the player's personal template?
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PhilosopherKing

PhilosopherKing

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Scott Lee said:
PhilosopherKing...Followthrough length, or what we call a "finish". is different for each person, and is based on several factors, such as bridge lenth, grip position, and how a person's arm works with their body, with no involvement of the shoulder. Involving the shoulder (elbow drop) leads to problems with timing and accuracy. Some pros are very effective with this technique...others have decided that a pendulum stroke is more efficient and accurate.

To your second question, that depends on the shot, but for most SOP shots, yes the backswing ends when the tip is pulled back to your bridge hand. Then you must have a smooth accelerated forward stroke which for lots of players ends with the grip hand on the chest, and the tip pointing down at the end of the stroke (some tips will be on the cloth, some just slightly angled down...depending on how high or low you stand over the cue). All of these measurements, and more, are part of one's personal shooting template. Naturally there are some shots, especially very soft finesse speed shots, where you still pull the tip back to your hand, but you modify your bridge length, and modify your grip position on the cue, to facilitate these kinds of shots

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Scott Lee
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If my follow-through is 4 inches, should my back hand always be 6 1/4 inches from the finish position when in the set position?

Is back-swing length equal to bridge length?
 
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Scott Lee

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Here's a simpler version...put the CB on a measurable place like the spot. Put your bridge hand down away from the CB where you like it. Measure from where the cue crosses over or through your fingers and thumb, up to the front edge of the CB, with a ruler. Do the action of picking your bridge length several times, measuring each time. It will probably be very close to the same each time. This is your natural bridge length, that you'll use for most everything. Hold the cue where your grip hand falls directly under your elbow, when the tip is touching the CB, when you're down on the table. Pull the cue back until the tip is at least to your outstretched fingers (many people pull it all the way back to the bridge thumb). Swing the cue along the pendulum of the elbow, with no engagement of the shoulder, until your grip hand swings to your pec. Freeze, and notice where the tip is now, past the CB. Measure this distance (randyg is 5.5", mine is 6.5", Allison Fisher is 3.5"). This is your finish position, or followthrough. This will normally always be the same for many, if not most of your normal shots. Then it's all about putting together your stance, timing, and psr's. Hope that helps. :thumbup:

Scott Lee
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randyg

randyg

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PhilosopherKing said:
does follow through length dictate the distance from backhand to chest/finish position when in the set position?

The simple answer is YES.

is the back swing always equal to the full bridge length, according to the player's personal template?
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In an SOP, Yes.
In an XOP, maybe not.

randyg
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